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wifeofcash2 · Oct 16, 2006, 12:28 PM

Hi. I'm Rob's wife. We need money. He's tried to post stuff for sale in the marketplace 3 times, and each time it was deleted. He's never screwed anybody over on this forum, and he also has a great feedback on ebay. So then, seeing that the admins are being basically jerks, as they have never given him a ban like all the other people he complains about that get a 'temporary' ban 1 month long, he said I should register and post the stuff for sale. I did. I posted the things we have for sale, very detailed descriptions that he spent time writing, and every time you guys delete them! According to your own rules, you should not be doing this. I AM POSTING THIS. NOT HIM. I can see why he gets so frustrated with this place, it seems to be run by hacks who don't follow their own rules, and make new rules up to enforce whenever they feel like it. It's ridiculous.

So basically, why are you deleting MY posts? What have I done to this forum? Also, knock it off! We need the money, and he's never screwed anybody over, and we have valuable products to sell!

- K

wifeofcash2 · Oct 16, 2006, 12:29 PM

...., I should have copy edited my own title before posting.

Chuckit · Oct 16, 2006, 12:36 PM

Hey, Mrs. Rob. I haven't seen your threads, but are you just sticking to the marketplace stuff (as opposed to talking about Rob's situation)? Your husband tried to advertise something a little while back, and included a long rant about how much he hates MacNN, which of course led to the thread getting killed. If you just post your stuff and don't bring up the MacNN drama, I imagine you'll have better luck.

Sherman Homan · Oct 16, 2006, 12:59 PM

Interesting sales pitch...

turtle777 · Oct 16, 2006, 01:05 PM

I don't see how it would be fair of the mods to delete your posts, since you have no history with MacNN, and you have not been banninated.

On the other hand, we all know that MacNN is not always fair, and they do things because they can.

You have my support when it comes to posting here. But be real careful: should the mods find ANY evidence that Rob is posting from your account, you'll basically become subject to the same treatment. And I think they would ban you in the future, just because they can never know if it's you or Rob.

Good luck.

-t

Lateralus · Oct 16, 2006, 01:12 PM

*Raises Hand*

I might have considered letting your account slide if it weren't for three things;

1) You were copy-pasting Rob's sale ads, thus doing his bidding.

2) He used your account to post in the iMac forum, thus stripping your account of any autonomy.

3) Rob has done nothing but abuse this forum and the memebers of it for his entire history. Thus, I see very little reason to allow him, or even you, to take advantage of the perks of being a member here. Namely, exercising use of our Marketplace.

If you want fair treatment, keep your husband off of your account and maybe try reeling his behavior in a little because it's intolerable.

As for him whining about not getting temporary bans, there is something that he, and even a lot of our members seem to be forgetting; His original ban was never lifted. Any new account he has ever created has been ban evasion. Plain and simple.

cakey · Oct 16, 2006, 01:25 PM

Tried ebay?

wifeofcash2 · Oct 16, 2006, 01:26 PM

1. So what? His posessions are as much mine as they are his, so why can't I copy and paste them? There is nothing in the rules that says I cannot quote someone else, is there? Again, the stuff I am selling also belongs to me. It's just that he had a word file with his descriptions of the items. Do you expect me to attempt to describe his quicksilver with 1000 modifications? That'd be just stupid! He built it, he knows what's done to it.

2. I posted that. We've been discussing selling all this stuff to afford a 24" iMac. Are you implying that I can't possibly know what I'm talking about? We make financial decisions together. We've discussed the 24" iMac and we both think it's a good idea. I'm insulted you assume that he's posting just because it was something remotely dealing with technology.

3. Abuse how? He's told me that he's been treated unfairly here many, many times by the people in charge here. He's also said that other member have been given bans they can actually fulfill, whereas he was never given one like that. He was just 'banned' and never told when he could come back, so he came back again. He says that he's the only one that's been banned 'forever', and I really don't understand why. He's helped lots of people on this forum in the past, done lots of transactions in the marketplace, and enjoys discussing many things on here. I even like reading the 'debates' sometimes.

So what is this original ban that 'has never been lifted' about? What was it's specific purpose? Because if it's YEARS ago, I don't see why it should still be valid if everyone else on this forum gets 'slaps on the wrist' where they can't post for a few weeks.

- K

wifeofcash2 · Oct 16, 2006, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by cakey

Tried ebay?

He ebays stuff quite often, but this is a mac forum, so the userbase here is obviously comprised of mac users. It's logical to try here first, knowing the large concentration of mac fans.

wifeofcash2 · Oct 16, 2006, 01:29 PM

One other thing Mr. Lateralus, you said I should try reeling him in because his behavior was intolerable. He made a username and posted some of our things for sale, and a question about an iMac, and he was banned.

What exactly is so intolerable about that? How much more should I reel him in? He wasn't even arguing with anybody.

Railroader · Oct 16, 2006, 01:52 PM

You're in publishing?!?! WOW!!!

I think Rob claimed you have a Master's Degree as well. WOW?!?

These posts of yours are not the signs of an intelligent individual.

rickey939 · Oct 16, 2006, 01:54 PM

This is truly priceless.

SSharon · Oct 16, 2006, 02:17 PM

My vote is to let them sell the stuff in the marketplace. Rob has messed up in the past, I've been here long enough to know that, but I don't see why his wife can't post things for him.

The ban was because of things he did, and she can't be held responsible for them.

In fact, I would go so far as to let Rob back if he never mentioned SUVs, other users, or his past here. (and follwed the rules)

wifeofcash2 · Oct 16, 2006, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

You're in publishing?!?! WOW!!!

I think Rob claimed you have a Master's Degree as well. WOW?!?

These posts of yours are not the signs of an intelligent individual.

Funny. That post of yours is definitely the sign of an asshole. Aren't you the one who works for GM? Fitting.

Chuckit · Oct 16, 2006, 02:47 PM

I suggest you refrain from attacking other posters or your future here will probably look a lot like your husband's.

wifeofcash2 · Oct 16, 2006, 02:55 PM

Chuckit, I'm very sick right now. I'm at home, in bed, and I feel awful. Having some idiot claim that my posts aren't the signs of an intelligent individual is an insulting. It's under the radar, but it's there. He purposely insulted me, and I've done nothing to this person. I don't know what his problem is, but it's quite apparent that he enjoys picking fights. Maybe he's making up for something?

turtle777 · Oct 16, 2006, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

You're in publishing?!?! WOW!!!

I think Rob claimed you have a Master's Degree as well. WOW?!?

These posts of yours are not the signs of an intelligent individual.

RR, I think that's uncalled for.

You have beef with Rob, fine. But why extend your hatred to his wife ? She has done nothing to you, or did I miss something ?

-t

Dakar² · Oct 16, 2006, 03:03 PM

My guess is he doesn't believe it's cash's wife, but just cash.

Mastrap · Oct 16, 2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

You're in publishing?!?! WOW!!!

I think Rob claimed you have a Master's Degree as well. WOW?!?

These posts of yours are not the signs of an intelligent individual.

That was uncalled for. Your ongoing vendetta with Robert has nothing to do with his wife. It's the equivalent of Rob posting your child's images, which was equally wrong.

Chuckit · Oct 16, 2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by wifeofcash2

Chuckit, I'm very sick right now. I'm at home, in bed, and I feel awful. Having some idiot claim that my posts aren't the signs of an intelligent individual is an insulting. It's under the radar, but it's there. He purposely insulted me, and I've done nothing to this person. I don't know what his problem is, but it's quite apparent that he enjoys picking fights. Maybe he's making up for something?

I understand. I'm not a moderator or anything, so it's not a threat — just a friendly heads-up. It's better to ignore rude people than to let them bait you into getting banned yourself. If you really feel offended, just hit the "Report Abuse" link.

turtle777 · Oct 16, 2006, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

My guess is he doesn't believe it's cash's wife, but just cash.

What happened to innocent until proven guilty ?

-t

Dakar² · Oct 16, 2006, 03:23 PM

That was lost in Railroaders hatred of cash.

SSharon · Oct 16, 2006, 03:45 PM

I don't care if it is rob, if the posts that robswife posts are convincing enough then fine. As long as all I see is respectful posting, I don't care if it is rob's wife or rob pretending to be his wife.

Kevin · Oct 16, 2006, 03:45 PM

I doubt this is actually his wife. And if it is, sad. Very very sad.

There is a female version of Rob out there just like him.

Sherman Homan · Oct 16, 2006, 03:47 PM

Wow.
This is an amazing thread. I am a newbie here. Who is Rob?

SSharon · Oct 16, 2006, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Sherman Homan

Wow.
This is an amazing thread. I am a newbie here. Who is Rob?

suffice it to say he was banninated for not following the rules and keeps coming back with a new username (violating yet another rule).

any search for rob, cash or a username with 68 at the end is probably him.

Chuckit · Oct 16, 2006, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Sherman Homan

Wow.
This is an amazing thread. I am a newbie here. Who is Rob?

He's cash68, among a thousand other names. He was banned years ago basically for disrupting a lot of threads (as far as I can tell). Ever since then, he's been making new accounts here, all of which get banned for evading his original ban.

Also, I don't think this is Rob. He's never tried to hide his identity, to the best of my recollection.

tooki · Oct 16, 2006, 04:04 PM

OK, I must step in here.

Though Cash has been a disruptive influence for most of MacNN's existence, I cannot condone any actions against his wife. We certainly have no rule barring the spouse of a banned member (nor is any such rule envisioned), nor do we have any rule prohibiting someone to act as another's agent in a Marketplace transaction (nor is any such rule envisioned). Only if Rob started using his wife's account would a problem arise.

In any case, though a permaban made sense in the past, when Cash's behavior was inequitable, I'm not so sure it's the right path any more, and certainly his wife is not a party to it.

tooki

brassplayersrock² · Oct 16, 2006, 04:12 PM

I concur with the person who said that since this is his wife and not rob himself, then let robs wife post and sell here until she screws up. personally, i don' think she will.

btw, it is also my personal opinion that railroader should get a "vacation" from these forums for what he said above. it was very uncalled for, and very hateful.

mac128k-1984 · Oct 16, 2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by wifeofcash2

3. Abuse how? He's told me that he's been treated unfairly here many, many times by the people in charge here.
- K

I haven't been here very long but of the little time I have, I've seen cash be completely disrupting, derailing threads and belittling anybody who has an opinion other then his. He seems very immature and needs to grow up Now if he (or you) really think Macnn bad evil, unresponsive then you have plenty of other sites on the internet to sell stuff. Actually I think the other sites may be better suited for selling, like craigslist.

Regardless, it seems Cash wants his cake and eat too. He comes here when ever he want's heaps abuse on people and now he wants to take advantage of the market place. Now since its been alleged that he used your account for his own ranting how will the mods be able to tell who's who.

Bottom line is that with cash's long history of evading bans and creating new accounts just create a new one and post under the new account he does when ever he wants to post in the lounge just do that in the marketplace, I mean he seems to have no regard for the rules anyways.

Wiskedjak · Oct 16, 2006, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by SSharon

suffice it to say he was banninated for not following the rules and keeps coming back with a new username (violating yet another rule).

That's all it takes for a permaban? Personally, I never understood why Rob has a permaban while others get away with a temporary ban for doing the same things.

turtle777 · Oct 16, 2006, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

That's all it takes for a permaban? Personally, I never understood why Rob has a permaban while others get away with a temporary ban for doing the same things.

That's my thinking, too.

Ban evasion should restart the clock of your tempban. Maybe even extend it. But permanent ? I dunno.

-t

turtle777 · Oct 16, 2006, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984

Bottom line is that with cash's long history of evading bans and creating new accounts just create a new one and post under the new account he does when ever he wants to post in the lounge just do that in the marketplace, I mean he seems to have no regard for the rules anyways.

To my knowledge, Rob has NEVER tried to conceal his true identity.
Yes, his nicks did not always include Cash, but that's ok. He lft the "cash" thing behind and went as Rob in the last years. He has never pretended to be somebody else. Got any prove of the opposite ?

-t

Chuckit · Oct 16, 2006, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

That's my thinking, too.

Ban evasion should restart the clock of your tempban. Maybe even extend it. But permanent ? I dunno.

-t

To my knowledge, Rob was banned indefinitely, not temporarily. There was no clock to restart.

Doofy · Oct 17, 2006, 03:41 AM

I vote we let Rob back in on the condition he posts an hour long video of himself lovingly polishing a Suburban with his favourite shirt.

mac128k-1984 · Oct 17, 2006, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

To my knowledge, Rob has NEVER tried to conceal his true identity.
...
Got any prove of the opposite ?
-t

Proof oh please. We're not talking about him "concealing" his identity but rather making overt actions to circumvent the rules, crap on threads and belittle other posters. I never said he was concealing his identity I said he was evading the ban.

So I don't need to prove anything. Rather he needs to prove that he can act in a mature manner, I suspect if he does that the Mods will lift the ban but I suspect they've had numerious discussions with him.

Kevin · Oct 17, 2006, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

That's all it takes for a permaban? Personally, I never understood why Rob has a permaban while others get away with a temporary ban for doing the same things.

Because he was a repeat offender and never respected his bans. Simply refused to be banned when he did get banned.

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by wifeofcash2

Funny. That post of yours is definitely the sign of an asshole. Aren't you the one who works for GM? Fitting.

Thank you for making it clear that you are actually Rob.

And if by the slimmest chance you aren't. WOW!!! Rob talks enough about this place that you know who I am and that I worked for GM and that he likes me that much?

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

RR, I think that's uncalled for.

You have beef with Rob, fine. But why extend your hatred to his wife ? She has done nothing to you, or did I miss something ?

-t

I was simply commenting. I said no "hatefull" things.

But seriously, you don't know this is actually Rob?

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

That was uncalled for. Your ongoing vendetta with Robert has nothing to do with his wife. It's the equivalent of Rob posting your child's images, which was equally wrong.

No. It's not.

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

That was lost in Railroaders hatred of cash.

I don't hate Rob.

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I doubt this is actually his wife. And if it is, sad. Very very sad.

There is a female version of Rob out there just like him.

Railroader · 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock

I concur with the person who said that since this is his wife and not rob himself, then let robs wife post and sell here until she screws up. personally, i don' think she will.

btw, it is also my personal opinion that railroader should get a "vacation" from these forums for what he said above. it was very uncalled for, and very hateful.

For simply stating that the actions were not the sign of an "intelligent individual"?!?!

You need a thicker skin boy.

EDIT: You're probably right about banning me. I promised Tooki I wouldn't "bait" Rob anymore and I have probably violated that rule now by responding to his posts.

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 07:07 AM

One more for good measure.

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 07:21 AM

For those of you "freaking out" about my treatment of Rob's "wife", don't worry, I won't respond to this "girl" anymore.

Wiskedjak · Oct 17, 2006, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Because he was a repeat offender and never respected his bans. Simply refused to be banned when he did get banned.

Fair enough. But others get away with not respecting their bans. Just seems inconsistent to me.

Mastrap · Oct 17, 2006, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

You need a thicker skin boy.

I wonder how you would respond to a similar post. Boy.

turtle777 · Oct 17, 2006, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

Fair enough. But others get away with not respecting their bans. Just seems inconsistent to me.

Kevin did that himself, IIRC.

-t

Railroader · Oct 17, 2006, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I wonder how you would respond to a similar post. Boy.

Probably shrug it off. Boy.

Railroader · 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Kevin did that himself, IIRC.

-t

EDIT: So did you.

All of Kevin's bans were lifted after he did abide by the rules of the bans. None of the accounts Kevin has used are banned.