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Feb 8, 2007, 08:59 AM
 
Yeah there are a lot of bugs.. but they wont be fixed probably till someone gets off "vacation"

Give it about another 2 years.
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 01:40 PM
 
Once effgee gets back from Germany (where he is now, on another job, not vacation), he’ll start sifting through this thread, and the bugs noted here should then all be taken care of, one way or another.

Won’t be another two years, but he won’t be getting through the list over a weekend, either.
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 03:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
Once effgee gets back from Germany (where he is now, on another job, not vacation), he’ll start sifting through this thread, and the bugs noted here should then all be taken care of, one way or another.
Maybe a summary of all major points could be made ( sorry if that's already been suggested, or even put together, I just popped into this thread to ask if there ever was a "reply" button in the "private messages" "inbox" section, could only find a "quote" button myself )
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 03:31 PM
 
Door #1


Door #2


Door #3
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 03:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by skalie View Post
Maybe a summary of all major points could be made ( sorry if that's already been suggested, or even put together, I just popped into this thread to ask if there ever was a "reply" button in the "private messages" "inbox" section, could only find a "quote" button myself )
It's already been done in the secret lair.
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Feb 8, 2007, 03:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by reader50 View Post

Door #3
I like this one, but I'm not to fond of the colors.
I like my water with hops, malt, hops, yeast, and hops.
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 03:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
I like this one, but I'm not to fond of the colors.
Tone down the green slightly and maybe adjust the yellow to more of a mellow colour and i'd say I prefer no. 3.
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 06:25 PM
 
Unfortunately, it turns out that Frank is stuck on dialup until next Wednesday, so that's when the serious bug fixing will begin. He should be able to get to some of the more urgent issues this weekend, but that will include things like the image verification bug in registering a new user and not stuff like icons. But yes, we are aware of all the proposed fixes and will be going through them.
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Feb 8, 2007, 07:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by skalie View Post
I just popped into this thread to ask if there ever was a "reply" button in the "private messages" "inbox" section, could only find a "quote" button myself )
That's because the "read PM" page uses the same template to display a post as this page here. Instead of showing a list of posts, it simply displays a single "post". And for this page here, effgee never liked the "reply" label on the button in the old design because it doesn't imply the quoting functionality – OTH, a button labeled "reply with quote" would be waaay too large and so he chose "quote" as the next best option.

Just one of those times where re-using the same template in various places isn't necessarily the best idea but that's how vB is written and there's nothing he can do about that.
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 07:48 PM
 
Feeling blue today, Rickey?
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Feb 8, 2007, 08:21 PM
 
Great Work on the redesign.

Any reason why the Multimedia/DV forum is closed?
     
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Feb 8, 2007, 09:34 PM
 
My reaction is mixed. As a work of art, one of the best sites I've ever seen. The shadings, proportions, the way I keep getting drawn in and the site keeps coming out at me is masterful. In fact there is little I would change.

Functionally, I'd find it easier if there was not so much white space, the contrast created by the lines in the previous version made it easier to read and focus on. Also, I think there was more color previously, this design has a blue bias that is hard on my eyes, a very personal thing, of course. So a tad more contrast even in the buttons, to make the printed areas more clear. Also let us have our post numbers back.

In sum, visually this like going from OS 9 to Aqua.

Not having read beyond the first 10 posts, I have probably echoed others. If so, please take it as an endorsement.
     
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Feb 10, 2007, 01:02 PM
 
Where is the UNIX forum?

I hate that the list of forums is not correct at the bottom of the pages. Also, I used to just scroll all the way to the bottom to see it, but now it is just above the bottom of the page meaning that I have to scroll up a bit.

The pretty factor is nice, but surely it should not come at the expense of usability.

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Feb 10, 2007, 10:02 PM
 
[never mind]

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Feb 10, 2007, 11:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
The new stars look awesome implemented, though perhaps the blue mod stars should be slightly darker, closer to the colour used for user names? It seems a bit... off, with its current colour.

Other than that, it’s still awesome.

(And it’s nice to finally see that quick-format bar in the quick-reply box!)

For those who’ve requested it, these are the user rankings (unless there’ve been any last-minute changes; only Demonhood and gorgonzola would know about those, I’m guessing):

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Feb 11, 2007, 12:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by itistoday View Post
I gotta say, "Professional Poster" is my favorite title, and I'm right in the sweet-spot. Watch out! My opinion matters—I'm a professional poster.
Glad you like it, I made that one up myself.

     
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Feb 11, 2007, 07:34 AM
 
Regarding re-organization.......

When we had the web developer subforum there were two sticky threads, you can get to them by going to the web developer forum via the footer links, but just in case they disappear at a later date................ ( couldn't find them in the developer forum with a search )
     
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Feb 11, 2007, 06:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by skalie View Post
Regarding re-organization.......

When we had the web developer subforum there were two sticky threads, you can get to them by going to the web developer forum via the footer links, but just in case they disappear at a later date................ ( couldn't find them in the developer forum with a search )
Yes. I would hate to see my sticky go

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Feb 11, 2007, 06:09 PM
 
What the heck is it with all the "vacation" talk? Who's the specialist that started circulating this fairy tale (*)??

I am not on vacation. I had to travel abroad to kick off a new project I'll be working on for the next six months.

There. Better?

As gorg mentioned above, I'll also be stuck with dial-up access (= max. up-/download speed: 7kB/s) until the middle of the week, which is not only about as speedy and exciting as watching sap run down a tree but also expensive as hell.

What this means is that until I got somewhat decent internet access, I can only fix the most urgent of bugs (i.e., image verification for registration of new members, etc.).





(* – "fairy tale" because: "Damn do I wish that was true.")
     
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Feb 11, 2007, 06:11 PM
 
Hey. I was the first to debunk it.

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Feb 11, 2007, 11:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
Very nice work, guys. It was really slick to hold off on doing the forum reorganization until the theme was ready. I really like the new Quick Reply. I don't have a problem with losing post count on individual posts, but the higher end star types (green, insane) should be returned. The new thread list sorting options are neat. And I suppose I'll get used to the new post markers. Finally, it seems like there should be a little more white space in the forum and thread lists, but I won't be angry if we don't get that.
Just so you know, your sig no longer links to an active page on Apple's site.
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Feb 12, 2007, 12:27 AM
 
Originally Posted by ndptal85 View Post
Just so you know, your sig no longer links to an active page on Apple's site.
Indeed. This is the page he wants to link to:
http://www.apple.com/macpro/performance.html


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Feb 12, 2007, 11:57 PM
 
Gotta say, I'm loving the theme. But the more I see it, the more I think the various buttons could fit with the style better (i.e. the quote, quick reply, etc. buttons).
     
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Feb 13, 2007, 03:33 PM
 
I do like the new stars, they fit in well with the theme (unlike the smileys, but that's been covered), but the empty stars do look weird. I've had a quick go at some variations, the first is the 'empty star' as it is now, one is literally half a star, the other is a 50% tint as suggested in this thread.



And also had a go at the post marker envelopes, I liked the system before with white or yellow envelopes with a red circle marker, but I understand about red not fitting in with the new theme, so here is an updated version with the circle markers in the theme graphite colour. Yellow envelopes for new posts, white envelopes for old, graphite blobs for threads you have posted in.



I would say that I'm not bothered about the post counts being displayed in threads but....


woohoo 2000th post!!!

It'll be much easier if you just comply.
     
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Feb 13, 2007, 04:56 PM
 
the original empty stars that i made were at like 15% opacity. adam made them completely white in the center. i suppose we could always seem how they looked.

the yellow envelopes are a bit garish. altho i do like the idea of a dot ONLY representing threads in which you've posted.
     
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Feb 13, 2007, 06:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by Demonhood View Post
i do like the idea of a dot ONLY representing threads in which you've posted.
Yes, its basically the system as it was on the old style forum. Yellow or white envelopes for new or old posts, and dots or no dots for you posting or not posting in them. All this yellow dot green dot business is confusing.

It'll be much easier if you just comply.
     
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Feb 13, 2007, 09:04 PM
 
Originally Posted by ajprice View Post
And also had a go at the post marker envelopes, I liked the system before with white or yellow envelopes with a red circle marker, but I understand about red not fitting in with the new theme, so here is an updated version with the circle markers in the theme graphite colour. Yellow envelopes for new posts, white envelopes for old, graphite blobs for threads you have posted in.

That is great! If the colors need to change a bit so be it, but that would be much better than what it is now.

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Feb 13, 2007, 09:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
That is great! If the colors need to change a bit so be it, but that would be much better than what it is now.
I agree. The colors are about right according to Sim Daltonism (color-blindness simulator), unless a user suffers from full monochromatism where the contrast isn't high enough.

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Originally Posted by ajprice View Post
That's a great suggestion.
     
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Feb 15, 2007, 09:21 PM
 
Hi All
I've mentioned before how great I think macnn forums are, have got lots of wonderful help for people.

Just a bit of feedback though with your website. The new look is great, but just still a couple of problems with it.

When you first use the website or haven't visited it for a while it's hard to remember how to submit a post. This is because there are no quick links on the home page to submit a new post.

For instance before you can submit a post you have to get to the actual forums, which is also a little difficult to find, because neither forums link or the new post link are situated in your quick links buttons.

To improve this I think it would be great to have both a forum button and new post button in the existing row of buttons (currently situated near the top of the screen).

When you click on forums then it should take you into a screen to look either at all forums or you can choose which forum to look at.

When you click on the new post button it should take you to a screen which says you have to log in to do a new post, if you are already logged in it should take you to a screen which asks you to select which forum you want your new post to go into.

I think the new post button should always appear in the existing row of buttons at the top of each screen so that when you do a search of a particular forum you can submit a new post (which you can't currently seem to do)

By the way I also noticed that you can't seem to search now unless you log in, but there is nothing on the screen to tell you that, I just figured that out because my searches don't work unless I am logged in.
     
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Feb 16, 2007, 08:04 PM
 
Originally Posted by gorgonzola View Post
Originally Posted by rickey939
Mods, please update the "Forum Links" collapsable menu to reflect the pull-down menu list and the re-org of forum sections.
I'll do this sometime soon.
So, is this something you can do (without effgee)?
It seems that some of the links have been updated (like in threads and in the Mac Pro forum), but the rest have not. For example, the links in the bottom of the new peripherals forum has a (dead) link to the old peripherals forum.

I would very much appreciate this particular fix, and from the comments it looks like a lot of other people would too. Thanks
     
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Feb 18, 2007, 06:02 PM
 
Sorry. It's fixed now.
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Feb 18, 2007, 09:51 PM
 
Thanks very much.
     
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Feb 18, 2007, 11:25 PM
 
Excellent...my normal method of navigation is fixed. Thanks gorg!

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Feb 19, 2007, 05:51 PM
 
I still hate the new look and feel. It is like you took the old site, dumped it in a barrell of cream, and blended it up. Ahhhhhhhh. I am pannicking.
     
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Feb 20, 2007, 04:13 AM
 
Although I like the new appearance I find it surprising that it went final just before the obviously only person who can fix bugs went away on business or vacation or whatever. It's now been almost three weeks since the switch and many of the bugs listed in this thread still persist. Is there a plan on when and how these issues will be dealt with?
     
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Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Although I like the new appearance I find it surprising that it went final just before the obviously only person who can fix bugs went away on business or vacation or whatever. It's now been almost three weeks since the switch and many of the bugs listed in this thread still persist. Is there a plan on when and how these issues will be dealt with?
As soon as effgee has the time once he returns from his current project.
     
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Feb 23, 2007, 04:25 PM
 
Can not click through using drop down menu to forum poster. Using Safari v1.3.2 in Panther mac OS 10.3.9
     
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Mar 1, 2007, 09:13 PM
 
When I mouse over the "Private messages" link, this whole section moves up a few pixels:

You last visited: Today at 08:47 PM
Private Messages: Unread 0, Total 8.
When I remove the mouse pointer, it falls back down.

This only happens with Safari. With Firefox, it stays stationary.
     
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I like the old star system and post counts better too.
     
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I still dislike the right side sigs.
     
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Wow
     
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I kinda like the stars and post counts too ... but hey ...
     
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Status update: Frank (the designer) isn't on vacation, he's on a job in Germany. He was expecting to be able to work on all of this throughout that job, so there wasn't going to be any strange hiatus between the launch and the bugfixes, but he's having very severe problems with his internet connection that just couldn't be foreseen. Here's a note from him:

Sorry for the recent lack of communication ... I've been without any kind of internet connection from (my temporary German) home for weeks now and it doesn't look like I'll be getting anything that goes beyond using my cell as a modem (= slow as hell, expensive as poo) or driving to the nearest coffeeshop that offers wireless access (= 12 miles away, huge pain in the butt, also quite pricey) until I get back to the US, which won't be until the middle/end of April. In their repeated and failed attempts to install "Satellite DSL", the bastards from the German Telekom messed up my parents' phone lines so badly that I can't even go online using a dial-up provider.
This is obviously disappointing and annoying, but it should be made clear that this isn't Frank flaking out, it's just random **** happening. I'm currently very busy myself, but I'm going to talk to Demonhood about what kinds of bugs we might be able to clean up before Frank gets back to the US. Changes to the icons and other design-related issues will have to wait, but there may be some things we can get done without having to sit around until April.

Obviously, had we known this was going to happen, we would not have launched, but what can you do. I'll be going through the bug list, but if there are non-design related fixes that you view as critical, please feel free to remind me.
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That's a real bummer. Thank you for informing us though.
     
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with fewer stars and a less impressive name. Wah!
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Mar 14, 2007, 06:53 AM
 
Yeah the whole user cp page is still a GUI nightmare. The complaints that were made about it before the redesign were never taken into consideration. And just left the same.
     
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
Yeah the whole user cp page is still a GUI nightmare. The complaints that were made about it before the redesign were never taken into consideration. And just left the same.
The user CP complaints were taken into consideration in the Theme Beta Forum and just weren't addressed before Frank left.

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