[FireWire]

what the **** is wrong with the one locking almost every post started by marden, relevant or not? Many of the threads that were locked would have remained open if posted by someone else posted them. Isn't that discrimination?

What's wrong with the Jackson 5 thread? the Emma Watson one? The one about the superbowl ad? The one about illiteracy in Washington? and to an extent the one about the pizza-punch? Seriously, this is ridiculous and the actions taken were cleary biaised against one poster in particular, without valid reasons...

Seriously, what's wrong with these posts? Is there a limit of 1 post per day per user? I've seen lots of threads far less interesting stay open.. This is the lounge, after all...

[kmkkid]

There's a feedback forum....

[Atomic Rooster]

Originally Posted by kmkkid 

There's a feedback forum....

Seconded.

In before lockamovination.

[Chuckit]

Feedback forum, Rosa Parks.

[FireWire]

Acceptable post (according to Peter):

Originally Posted by Peter 

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...p;in_page_id=2


I dont know whats more scary... A man pretending to be a baby or the fact they have unwanted baby chutes.

Unacceptable post (according to Peter):

Originally Posted by marden

It may be the most stunning and creative attack ad yet for a 2008 presidential candidate -- one experts say could represent a watershed moment in 21st century media and political advertising.
Yet the groundbreaking 74-second pitch for Democratic Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, which remixes the classic "1984" ad that introduced Apple computers to the world, is not on cable or network TV, but on the Internet.

(To see the video, go to: YouTube - Vote Different)

Political video smackdown / 'Hillary 1984': Unauthorized Internet ad for Obama converts Apple Computer's '84 Super Bowl spot into a generational howl against Clinton's presidential bid

This is about ADVERTISING kiddies, NOT POLITICS.

What other ad was ever shown just once that has gotten so much mileage?

Maybe the 1964 LBJ "Daisy" ad which insinuated Goldwater would use nukes in Vietnam.

Can anyone think of another ad shown just once that was as memorable?

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I'd like to understand..

[marden]

Originally Posted by FireWire 

what the **** is wrong with the one locking almost every post started by marden, relevant or not? Many of the threads that were locked would have remained open if posted by someone else posted them. Isn't that discrimination?

What's wrong with the Jackson 5 thread? the Emma Watson one? The one about the superbowl ad? The one about illiteracy in Washington? and to an extent the one about the pizza-punch? Seriously, this is ridiculous and the actions taken were cleary biaised against one poster in particular, without valid reasons...

Seriously, what's wrong with these posts? Is there a limit of 1 post per day per user? I've seen lots of threads far less interesting stay open.. This is the lounge, after all...

It's a blatant example of the conspiracy of the narrow minded who disagree with my opinions and safely hide while using the mods like tools to get their way.

[Chuckit]

Count how many there are like that by Peter. Now count how many by Abe. Also, most of Abe's threads should have been in the PL. The latter charge is more serious, but still, spamming the forum with the same **** over and over is annoying.

[imitchellg5]

We need a marden forum...

[FireWire]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Count how many there are like that by Peter. Now count how many by Abe. Also, most of Abe's threads should have been in the PL. The latter charge is more serious, but still, spamming the forum with the same **** over and over is annoying.

Why don't you just ignore who posted it and enjoy the information conveyed? I prefer to see 10 new posts than the same posts on the front page days after days.. What if 10 different persons posted these threads instead of one? Would that be better? He's just quicker to post... Most of his posts would have made it to this board eventually...

[marden]

And if you want examples of other posts that stayed unlocked even though their topics are sillier or along the same subject lines as mine...

http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...ains-invented/
http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...ead-check-out/
http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...drunk-smoking/
Two threads dealing with the film, 300
http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...ac-and-breach/
http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...887/300-movie/
http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...-get-over-r-e/
http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...our-mama-i-am/
http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...king-drifting/

No, there are people who just use the obscurity of the "report post" button to try to get back at me because they don't like my opinions.

And the new mods haven't had a chance to see this insidious cancer at work before now and so they just do what is needed to satisfy the complaints and make them go away without necessarily dispensing justice.

In that way the hidden cowardly complainers are manipulating the system.

[::maroma::]

Don't worry folks, marden can't do this forever. Anyone with that much time on his hands to post every little bit of information he comes across each day will burn out soon. Let the little boy get his thrills and hopefully he moves on soon. Or just shuts the hell up. Either way.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by FireWire 

Why don't you just ignore who posted it and enjoy the information conveyed?

It's hard to enjoy something that's not there.

Originally Posted by FireWire 

I prefer to see 10 new posts than the same posts on the front page days after days.. What if 10 different persons posted these threads instead of one? Would that be better?

If there was a huge flood of incredibly similar, pointless posts, many would probably be locked, yes. It's happened before. That's why I posted "I miss tooki" (in a thread started by somebody other than Abe, incidentally). And posts like several of Abe's that belong in the PL but are placed in the Lounge should be locked.

Originally Posted by FireWire 

He's just quicker to post... Most of his posts would have made it to this board eventually...

No, nobody else would have made a thread about the Iraq War under the guise of a thread about the Jackson 5 or whatever.

[::maroma::]

I also didn't see anyone complain about the Lounge before marden came in. And now we have complaints. What does that tell you?

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Lock Lock Lock

[FireWire]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

It's hard to enjoy something that's not there.

Sorry but I learned a few things I didn't know before coming to the lounge today...

Originally Posted by Chuckit

If there was a huge flood of incredibly similar, pointless posts, many would probably be locked, yes. It's happened before. That's why I posted "I miss tooki" (in a thread started by somebody other than Abe, incidentally). And posts like several of Abe's that belong in the PL but are placed in the Lounge should be locked.

I didn't read them all, but the ones I read didn't belong to the PL.. And they are not that similar.. He covered a broad range of topics, ranging from the Jackson 5 reuniting, the future Harry Potter films, illiteracy in Washington, a new kind of juice, etc...

Originally Posted by Chuckit

No, nobody else would have made a thread about the Iraq War under the guise of a thread about the Jackson 5 or whatever.

What are you talking about? The thread is really about the Jackson 5, unless I missed something obvious...

[mac128k-1984]

I agree, I looked at those locked threads and it seems one of the mods has a hair across his butt. This is the lounge and while some may not see the value in a given thread/post that doesn't mean everyone doesn't see the value.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Maybe the hampster can prevent more than 3 new threads per day per forum per member?

[marden]

Originally Posted by ::maroma:: 

I also didn't see anyone complain about the Lounge before marden came in. And now we have complaints. What does that tell you?

That small minded little creatures use whatever methods are available to them to oppose freedom of speech (i.e. anyone who disagrees with them) and hide behind the rules and manipulate the mods and admins to do their 'biddying.'

7. Biddy
An old woman who gets in the way or is just annoying (sometimes shortened to bid)

Get out the road you stupid old biddy

That's what it tells me.

[Atomic Rooster]

[goMac]

Originally Posted by FireWire 

Acceptable post (according to Peter):



Unacceptable post (according to Peter):



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I'd like to understand..

It should have been in the political lounge. I can understand the mods locking his threads instead of being his personal "let's move it to the PL" service.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

Maybe the hampster can prevent more than 3 new threads per day per forum per member?

Yeah let's create more new rules so you can screw with ol' marden.

[marden]

Originally Posted by goMac 

It should have been in the political lounge. I can understand the mods locking his threads instead of being his personal "let's move it to the PL" service.

Uhhhh, sorry to have to point out your shortcomings AGAIN, but the threads we're talking about have nothing to do with the ones you are referring to.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster 

I laughed....and it was out loud.

[marden]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Lock Lock Lock

analogue, would that be a variation of the name, ANNIE? Like in Annie Sprinkle?

Annie M. Sprinkle (born Ellen F. Steinberg July 23, 1954 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) was a prostitute, stripper, porn film star, cable television host, porn magazine editor and writer, and sex film producer. She received a BFA in photography from the School of Visual Arts in 1986. Currently, Sprinkle works as a performance artist and sex educator.

Your very NAME is obscene, isn't it?

[marden]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

I laughed....and it was out loud.

Me too, but I don't want to encourage him.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by marden 

Yeah let's create more new rules so you can screw with ol' marden.

Um, get over yourself? I seem to remember many people who had to be told personally that they were overdoing it. This would just simplify the process, just like the 30-seconds per search rule.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

Um, get over yourself? I seem to remember many people who had to be told personally that they were overdoing it. This would just simplify the process, just like the 30-seconds per search rule.

WTF are you talking about and WTF did you come from with those proposed rules that would give a fascist 'wet dreams?'

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

WTF are you talking about

Exactly what he said. Lots of people have been told to stop spamming the forums with an overlarge amount of pointless posts. It's not just you.

Originally Posted by marden 

WTF did you come from with those proposed rules that would give a fascist 'wet dreams?'

Fascism is a form of government. This is a private Internet forum. Grab a little perspective next time you're at the supermarket.

[Salty]

I don't get why those were locked... personally I enjoy the lounge just being one big RSS feed...

[marden]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Exactly what he said. Lots of people have been told to stop spamming the forums with an overlarge amount of pointless posts. It's not just you.

When given a 50/50 chance at getting anything right your record seems to be 10%.

This would just simplify the process, just like the 30-seconds per search rule.

That's what I was asking about. WTF does this mean?

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Fascism is a form of government. This is a private Internet forum. Grab a little perspective next time you're at the supermarket.

Well, if you get yours at the supermarket I'd say you should stop visiting the Canned Foods warehouse and try Safeway or Kroger or Albertsons.

Someone can espouse fascism and also have wet dreams about establishing realllly restrictive rules governing free expression here at MacNN's lounge. They aren't mutually exclusive, as you so nicely pointed out.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Salty 

I don't get why those were locked... personally I enjoy the lounge just being one big RSS feed...

Thanks for being a stand-up guy!

[Gossamer]

I don't necessarily disagree with your political stances, but I still find your posts irritating. Just so you know that not everyone that wants fewer posts from you does it because they have some secret connection to Islam and wants you shut down.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by ::maroma:: 

I also didn't see anyone complain about the Lounge before marden came in. And now we have complaints. What does that tell you?

I complained, because any thread he entered would turn into a discussion about Ann Coulter or something. Political crap should go in the PL.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Gossamer 

I don't necessarily disagree with your political stances, but I still find your posts irritating. Just so you know that not everyone that wants fewer posts from you does it because they have some secret connection to Islam and wants you shut down.

As FireWire pointed out:

Originally Posted by FireWire

Why don't you just ignore who posted it and enjoy the information conveyed? I prefer to see 10 new posts than the same posts on the front page days after days.. What if 10 different persons posted these threads instead of one? Would that be better? He's just quicker to post... Most of his posts would have made it to this board eventually...

You say you don't necessarily disagree with my opinions. I'll buy that.

But you do admit to opposing a thread merely because I posted it.

When there is nothing interesting to talk about and I take the initiative to bring new options for discussion should we focus on the fact that the top threads were stale and didn't interest you, me or anyone who posts here?

Or should we focus on the incidentals of who posted them?

If GM went bankrupt, an airline began a policy to deny praying out loud by passengers, the remaining Beatles decided to go on tour with Clapton as Harrison and Bowie as Lennon and I posted the threads would you care who posted the threads?

Should there be a precedent to punish one poster?

Today they come for me, tomorrow they come for...

Be far sighted. Be fair.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

That's what I was asking about. WTF does this mean?

After you do a forum search, there's a cooldown period before you can do another to prevent overuse of the feature. He was saying a similar limit on posts would be useful.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

If GM went bankrupt, an airline began a policy to deny praying out loud by passengers, the remaining Beatles decided to go on tour with Clapton as Harrison and Bowie as Lennon and I posted the threads would you care who posted the threads?

Sounds like a good deal. If you wait for events of that magnitude to make posts, I bet people will be far more accepting.

[besson3c]

Guys, I know I'm going to sound like a broken record, but none of this matters... at all!

Really, if Marden wants to post his stuff, fine. This is all entirely inconsequential to argue about. His threads should not be locked, because doing so serves no real purpose except causing these sorts of stupid debates about completely and utterly meaningless issues.

This is a lounge... on the internet... in a public forum.... That is it. Don't take it so seriously.

I think of this place as my play place. Occasionally I find myself irritated with people like Kevin and Railroader because I know uptight and pedantic people like that in real life, and they irritate me. I've found that by trying not to take the internet seriously that it is easy to shake off these sorts of things. I don't lose sleep at the fact that Kevin and Railroader like to shadow me and jump in and tell me that I'm ironic or like black pots and kettles or whatever after many of my posts, in fact at times I enjoy it!

Seriously, your "status" in this virtual community is not important. If somebody posts in the wrong forum, it's no big deal. If somebody doesn't comment after posting a link to an article, it doesn't matter... Really, none of this is worth getting worked up over.

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by marden 

Today they come for me, tomorrow they come for...

Me? I don't start threads.

[marden]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

I complained, because any thread he entered would turn into a discussion about Ann Coulter or something. Political crap should go in the PL.

But that's the issue. What is political? If I wanted to I could say that YOUR post is political because YOU brought up Ann Coulter and mentioned the word "politics."

Now no one would seriously consider your post a political post, but where do we draw the line when politics and political figures become tangentially involved in a discussion?

Or if we are discussing LARGER issues such as free speech, that isn't a political issue unless every day Americans wish to cede these matters of our very civil liberties to the politicos.

I think not.

So your attempts to "police" the threads against what YOU consider to be a violation is an example of someone whose judgment is suspect being allowed to dictate the boundaries of free expression.

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Guys, I know I'm going to sound like a broken record, but none of this matters... at all!

Really, if Marden wants to post his stuff, fine. This is all entirely inconsequential to argue about. His threads should not be locked, because doing so serves no real purpose except causing these sorts of stupid debates about completely and utterly meaningless issues.

This is a lounge... on the internet... in a public forum.... That is it. Don't take it so seriously.

I think of this place as my play place. Occasionally I find myself irritated with people like Kevin and Railroader because I know uptight and pedantic people like that in real life, and they irritate me. I've found that by trying not to take the internet seriously that it is easy to shake off these sorts of things. I don't lose sleep at the fact that Kevin and Railroader like to shadow me and jump in and tell me that I'm ironic or like black pots and kettles or whatever after many of my posts, in fact at times I enjoy it!

Seriously, your "status" in this virtual community is not important. If somebody posts in the wrong forum, it's no big deal. If somebody doesn't comment after posting a link to an article, it doesn't matter... Really, none of this is worth getting worked up over.

THIS IS LIFE AND DEATH
haha haha haha

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Guys, I know I'm going to sound like a broken record, but none of this matters... at all!

Really, if Marden wants to post his stuff, fine. This is all entirely inconsequential to argue about. His threads should not be locked, because doing so serves no real purpose except causing these sorts of stupid debates about completely and utterly meaningless issues.

This is a lounge... on the internet... in a public forum.... That is it. Don't take it so seriously.

I think of this place as my play place. Occasionally I find myself irritated with people like Kevin and Railroader because I know uptight and pedantic people like that in real life, and they irritate me. I've found that by trying not to take the internet seriously that it is easy to shake off these sorts of things. I don't lose sleep at the fact that Kevin and Railroader like to shadow me and jump in and tell me that I'm ironic or like black pots and kettles or whatever after many of my posts, in fact at times I enjoy it!

Seriously, your "status" in this virtual community is not important. If somebody posts in the wrong forum, it's no big deal. If somebody doesn't comment after posting a link to an article, it doesn't matter... Really, none of this is worth getting worked up over.

Wow. I don't think I've made a post that long in this thread yet.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Sounds like a good deal. If you wait for events of that magnitude to make posts, I bet people will be far more accepting.

If you waited to post until those momentous times when you and I agree on a point I would be far more accepting of your posts.

Your position is the same, fundamentally, as the Islamic extremists' position on censorship isn't it?

We should all wait until there is an actual terrorist attack before we talk about extremism.

[besson3c]

I just wish we could put an end to this sort of stuff for once and for all...

I'm an *extremely* easy going and relaxed dude, but this sort of pedanticness drives me up the damn wall and makes me want to pee into a can opener or something.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

If you waited to post until those momentous times when you and I agree on a point I would be far more accepting of your posts.

Your position is the same, fundamentally, as the Islamic extremists' position on censorship isn't it?

We should all wait until there is an actual terrorist attack before we talk about extremism.

WRONG. FORUM.

See what I mean, FireWire?

[marden]

Originally Posted by Gossamer 

Me? I don't start threads.

No, they might not come for you. They'll just rely on you to point fingers at the 'guilty.'

[marden]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

WRONG. FORUM.

See what I mean, FireWire?

But that's the issue. What is political? If I wanted to I could say that YOUR post is political because YOU brought up Ann Coulter and mentioned the word "politics."

Now no one would seriously consider your post a political post, but where do we draw the line when politics and political figures become tangentially involved in a discussion?

Or if we are discussing LARGER issues such as free speech, that isn't a political issue unless every day Americans wish to cede these matters of our very civil liberties to the politicos.

I think not.

So your attempts to "police" the threads against what YOU consider to be a violation is an example of someone whose judgment is suspect being allowed to dictate the boundaries of free expression.

See what I mean, everyone?

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

See what I mean, everyone?

Abe, now you're admitting that you break the rules, but just making some incredibly muddled point about how — even though you're not — you should be allowed to post whatever you want wherever you want even if it's disruptive to the forum. You're not going to win that argument with the admins, so you may as well give it up now.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Abe, now you're admitting that you break the rules, but just making some incredibly muddled point about how — even though you're not — you should be allowed to post whatever you want wherever you want even if it's disruptive to the forum. You're not going to win that argument with the admins, so you may as well give it up now.

Hey Chuckit,

Instead of blowing off what I said, I challenge you to come up with a good sound reason why any of this matters?

A little too emotionally invested?

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Hey Chuckit,

Instead of blowing off what I said, I challenge you to come up with a good sound reason why any of this matters?

A little too emotionally invested?

Hey besson, instead of trying to read my mind, why don't you ask me whether I'm emotionally invested before you make that assumption?

I look at this the same way I look at trying to get a wireless Internet connection at school — I'd prefer to be able to, but I'm not going to cry if I can't. It's just somewhat nice not having to use their locked-down WinXP boxes, and it might be more convenient for me just to go somewhere else if that's my only option. It doesn't affect my emotional state one way or the other.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Hey besson, instead of trying to read my mind, why don't you ask me whether I'm emotionally invested before you make that assumption?

I look at this the same way I look at trying to get a wireless Internet connection at school — I'd prefer to be able to, but I'm not going to cry if I can't. It's just somewhat less pleasant having to use their locked-down WinXP boxes, and it might be more convenient for me just to go somewhere else if that's my only option. It doesn't affect my emotional state one way or the other.

So lounging has to be convenient? I don't get it... We aren't lounging properly?