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abe · Sep 10, 2007, 06:19 PM

After the Ignorant fighting thread finally got done with the nonsense and began to deal seriously with the topic at hand, it was locked.

Then, after everyone was being careful to talk only about the scientific and philosophical aspects of the Fuzzy brain thread, it was moved.

I suspect this is a case of selective enforcement.

Haven't mods been told about watching their own behavior in the past?

Who watches the watchers especially if one (which one I don't know) has repeatedly shown he really needs watching?

Dakarʒ · Sep 10, 2007, 06:20 PM

I reported the political brain thread. I freely admit this.

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

I reported the political brain thread. I freely admit this.

Great.

I hope that does for you what you hoped it would.

Chuckit · Sep 10, 2007, 06:29 PM

There was no non-political aspect of the brain patterns thread. The entire study in question centered around political divisions.

Tiresias · Sep 10, 2007, 06:41 PM

These people who report stuff to the mods crack me up! They're like nerds running to the hall monitor.

Dakarʒ · Sep 10, 2007, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by abe

I hope that does for you what you hoped it would.

Yes, keep the lounge cleaner.

turtle777 · Sep 10, 2007, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by abe

I hope that does for you what you hoped it would.

Well, it's now a great place where we can call you names w/o you being able to defend yourself.
I'd call this a win-win situation

-t

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

These people who report stuff to the mods crack me up! They're like nerds running to the hall monitor.

I know. It's like a full grown adult playing basketball with dwarfs. The only way to keep things fair is to keep the dwarfs and the full grown adults apart. The Liliputians can't handle any real intellectual challenges. And they get skeered when they bring on their own thrashings.

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

Yes, keep the lounge cleaner.

Things would be plenty clean if you just steered clear of all my threads as some posters, wisely, do.

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Well, it's now a great place where we can call you names w/o you being able to defend yourself.
I'd call this a win-win situation

-t

What you are too immature to understand is that if I can't post in the P/L I don't worry about what's said about me there.

I think your projection, however, reveals to the world what a very, very small person looks like.

Call it a win if you wish.

Enjoy it if you can.

Chuckit · Sep 10, 2007, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

These people who report stuff to the mods crack me up! They're like nerds running to the hall monitor.

Well, I don't have the option of punching people who make asses of themselves here, so reporting them is pretty much the only way to keep some people in line. If you don't like forums with rules, you're free to create your own and **** all over that place.

Atheist · Sep 10, 2007, 08:56 PM

I'm not even sure why I'm interjecting here... but what the hell. I browse the forums quite and bit and participate somewhat... but it seems pretty obvious to me that the majority of people here can't really stand you abe.... so why do you stick around? Just curious really...

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

There was no non-political aspect of the brain patterns thread. The entire study in question centered around political divisions.

Do you think the scientists involved in the study discussed the politics or the science?

Pfft. I forgot! Why would I ask you?

Anyway, there was a lot of science to be discussed and that's what was being discussed before the premature ejection.

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Atheist

I'm not even sure why I'm interjecting here... but what the hell. I browse the forums quite and bit and participate somewhat... but it seems pretty obvious to me that the majority of people here can't really stand you abe.... so why do you stick around? Just curious really...

It's a strange little dynamic, really. One which exists nowhere else that I know of and it scratches a place in me that nothing else does.

And apparently what seems obvious to you is more than what you perceive. Or less.

When you look at my most well attended threads they regularly exceed 100 responses. If people got no reward from participating in my threads they just would stay away.

Then, you'll notice that when my threads go off track it's USUALLY due to some of the usual suspects. besson3c, turtle777 and Dakar.

And then when you look at the tenor of my threads where these posters don't jump in to hijack, such as the Romantic films thread, you'll see they stay on track and everyone has a pleasant time.

The fact that I think escapes your attention is that in these threads that get so large and people seem to be enjoying themselves (or else they'd stop posting there) is that they were cut short while still satisfying the needs of the posters. So that suggests that despite what they might say, their actions speak louder than words.

They enjoy it.

And I enjoy it.

And some here just can't understand it.

Know what I mean?

Railroader · Sep 10, 2007, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Atheist

I'm not even sure why I'm interjecting here... but what the hell. I browse the forums quite and bit and participate somewhat... but it seems pretty obvious to me that the majority of people here can't really stand you abe.... so why do you stick around? Just curious really...

Huh?!?! I see it as a very small, but vocal, minority that doesn't like him. And I can see why. He shows them how their thinking is mentally immature and poorly developed.

If you don't like abe, who isn't going anywhere, then why do you stick around?

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Well, I don't have the option of punching people who make asses of themselves here, so reporting them is pretty much the only way to keep some people in line. If you don't like forums with rules, you're free to create your own and **** all over that place.

And if you don't like a thread, stay out of it.

And if you don't like a poster, put him on ignore.

You don't visit every thread do you?

So when you see a thread by someone who you know is likely to rile you, why not just skip it?

The reason why is because you LOVE it.

abe · Sep 10, 2007, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Huh?!?! I see it as a very small, but vocal, minority that doesn't like him. And I can see why. He shows them how their thinking is mentally immature and poorly developed.

If you don't like abe, who isn't going anywhere, then why do you stick around?

Thanks, Railroader!

sek929 · Sep 10, 2007, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by abe

And if you don't like a thread, stay out of it.

And if you don't like a poster, put him on ignore.

You don't visit every thread do you?

So when you see a thread by someone who you know is likely to rile you, why not just skip it?

The reason why is because you LOVE it.

I used this exact same argument about Rob, of course everyone who follows him around denied it wholeheartidly.

You rile people up on purpose so you can eventually show how superior you are at the art of argument.

I think you deserve most of the flak you get here, and you know it.

Chuckit · Sep 10, 2007, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by abe

And if you don't like a thread, stay out of it.

And if you want to stop having the rules used against you, how about you just start following them instead of breaking them and then coming here to complain about how mom and dad just don't understand you?

Originally Posted by abe

So when you see a thread by someone who you know is likely to rile you, why not just skip it?

There aren't any posters here whose threads are likely to rile me. Even the ones I don't get along with very well don't tend to get me rankled all that often.

besson3c · Sep 10, 2007, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

Yes, keep the lounge cleaner.

Clean from what? Why do we need it to be clean? It's a lounge.

Dakarʒ · Sep 10, 2007, 09:57 PM

Why do you care so much? What's the big deal? What's the point?

Go away besson, we've heard it all before, and so have you.

Chuckit · Sep 10, 2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Clean from what? Why do we need it to be clean?

People have answered these questions enough that if it hasn't sunk in by now, there's really no point in explaining it again. Your forum can be the nice restaurant that lets smelly homeless people sleep in its aisles if you want — MacNN is a higher-class establishment with clearly posted rules. Your wishing there weren't rules will not make it so.

besson3c · Sep 10, 2007, 10:18 PM

I think there should be rules, most definitely. I just don't see the point of rules in the Lounge, when they clearly haven't accomplished a single positive thing I can recall in my time here except create bickering about them.

Chuckit · Sep 10, 2007, 10:22 PM

If you think the rules haven't accomplished anything positive, you haven't visited enough forums. Aside from small forums where it's just me and a few friends, MacNN is one of the few that doesn't make me gag on drivel. The sig requirements alone make this place 700% better than the entire rest of the Internet.

besson3c · Sep 10, 2007, 10:27 PM

Well, it is true that I'm not a big forum junkie, outside of this one obviously (and Wombat)... What sort of drivel are you referring to?

Dakarʒ · Sep 10, 2007, 10:29 PM

I don't think it's worth wasting your breath chuckit.

(Not that you asked)

Demonhood · Sep 10, 2007, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Who watches the watchers especially if one (which one I don't know) has repeatedly shown he really needs watching?

so you don't know which mod moved it, but he might need supervision. if it was this mystery bad mod that did it. otherwise, forget you said anything. right.

your thread was political. it was moved to the appropriate forum. we appreciate it when people report threads that are posted in the wrong forum. you're just upset that it was placed somewhere that you can't follow. get over it.

and no, you're not being let back into the PL.

abe · Sep 11, 2007, 01:59 AM

http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...s-macnn-dying/

Then I won't be able to save the P/L from stagnation. Gonna let your little ego problem get in the way of a lively P/L?

Peter · 04:59 PM

why am i spammer?

turtle777 · Sep 11, 2007, 07:40 AM

A spammer hijacked Peter's account ?

-t

Mastrap · Sep 11, 2007, 08:14 AM

Abe, as much as it hurts me to admit that, has got a point. If you carry on sparring with him, you give him a voice. If you want to minimize his influence just don't post anything in his threads. That way he can post, Railroader can congratulate him on his utter brilliance, Kevin can cut and paste one of his standard responses and that'll be the end of it.

Right? Hey, holdonaminnite. Did I just click on the reply button? Oh, damn......

turtle777 · Sep 11, 2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Abe, as much as it hurts me to admit that, has got a point. If you carry on sparring with him, you give him a voice. If you want to minimize his influence just don't post anything in his threads.

I disagree with this assessment.

Most of abe's threads are flamebaits. Evene IF all members here would be self-disciplined enought to not post in those threads, I don't see a reason to have him continue baiting here. What's the point of it ?

-t

besson3c · Sep 11, 2007, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

I disagree with this assessment.

Most of abe's threads are flamebaits. Evene IF all members here would be self-disciplined enought to not post in those threads, I don't see a reason to have him continue baiting here. What's the point of it ?

-t

I disagree with your disagreeing. Abe is dogmatic and narrow minded, but he isn't a troll. In his little imaginary perfect world, people would be agreeing with him and perhaps appreciative of his contributions.

A troll is somebody who invokes hot button issues and comes up with the most efficient combination of words just to get under peoples' skin. A troll is often hostile, and is uninterested in doing more than irritating people for sport.

Abe is just Abe. You should simply put him on your ignore list.

turtle777 · Sep 11, 2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

A troll is somebody who invokes hot button issues and comes up with the most efficient combination of words just to get under peoples' skin.

Honestly, this has abe written all over it.

-t

Mastrap · Sep 11, 2007, 12:10 PM

My point still stands. If you ignore posts that annoy you, Abe's or otherwise, then the authors get less of a platform. I mean, starting a bunch of threads only to see them disappear in a day or so isn't much fun.

Dork. · Sep 11, 2007, 12:22 PM

Selective enforcement? No, both threads were dealt with appropriately, within the context of the way this place is run.

Dakarʒ · Sep 11, 2007, 12:26 PM

It occurs to me, if this is 'selective enforcement' what threads, in abe's opinion, have failed to be moderated properly in the lounge?

Railroader · Sep 11, 2007, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

Selective enforcement? No, both threads were dealt with appropriately, within the context of the way this place is run.

Unfairly and inconsistently? You bet!

sek929 · Sep 11, 2007, 03:21 PM

He posted an article about the differences between liberals and conservatives.

It doesn't matter that he claims it was all about science, the truth remains he was making yet another dig at liberals in the inappropriate forum. It was moved to the appropriate forum.

Why must this even be an issue?

Dakarʒ · Sep 11, 2007, 03:24 PM

Because he's not allowed in PL.

MacosNerd · Sep 11, 2007, 04:18 PM

Why not just let him in the PL. I very rarely go into the PL so I'm not sure what he did but if it keeps the lounge free of political stuff and it seems he wants to talk about political stuff just let him in.

Mastrap · Sep 11, 2007, 04:21 PM

Because he behaves like a bull in a china shop.

Dakarʒ · Sep 11, 2007, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Because he behaves like a bull in a china shop.

Bull in a China Shop - MythBusters Wiki

Dork. · Sep 11, 2007, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

Bull in a China Shop - MythBusters Wiki

So you're saying that's a load of bullshit?

Oisín · Sep 11, 2007, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

Bull in a China Shop - MythBusters Wiki

Well, as we all know, the real (read: Danish) saying has to do with an elephant in a china shop, so that busting is worthless

Dakarʒ · Sep 11, 2007, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Oisín

Well, as we all know, the real (read: Danish) saying has to do with an elephant in a china shop, so that busting is worthless

The only thing worse than you people countering my jokes with facts is you people countering my facts with other facts.
(That's a joke)

macdude · Sep 11, 2007, 04:43 PM

Why, oh why, do the mods allow these threads to continue on? I'm sure I wasn't alone in assuming right off the bat that this thread would turn into a trainwreck after a couple replies.

It's the same BS over and over. Move on folks, move on.

Rumor · Sep 11, 2007, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Oisín

Well, as we all know, the real (read: Danish) saying has to do with an elephant in a china shop, so that busting is worthless

There are elephants in Denmark?

Rumor · Sep 11, 2007, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by macdude

Why, oh why, do the mods allow these threads to continue on? I'm sure I wasn't alone in assuming right off the bat that this thread would turn into a trainwreck after a couple replies.

It's the same BS over and over. Move on folks, move on.

Some of us enjoy the random banter.

Peter · Sep 12, 2007, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by macdude

Why, oh why, do the mods allow these threads to continue on? I'm sure I wasn't alone in assuming right off the bat that this thread would turn into a trainwreck after a couple replies.

It's the same BS over and over. Move on folks, move on.

They won't anymore!