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Tiresias · Nov 4, 2007, 08:16 AM

I'm being perfectly serious. He's a ban Nazi, and it's hurting the community.

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 08:25 AM

This will not change, or make things better in any way Tiresias. I suggest an alternative approach. Just accept things and ignore the silliness.

bishopazrael · Nov 4, 2007, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

This will not change, or make things better in any way Tiresias. I suggest an alternative approach. Just accept things and ignore the silliness.

I don't know anything about this. I'm one of the quieter members here... but are you sugessting Kevin, that if there is a bad mod, that we just accept it? If Oreo is indeed abusing his ban hammer, it's time he got a taste of it himself. I myself came to this forum because of the moderation. I couldn't say 2 words on mac-forums.com without pissing off the ass goblin that runs it, or his little clique of meat popsicles. I came here because as long as I keep it in line (and it's a fair bit of roadway we've got to move on here on macnn) I'm left alone by the mods. Now if Oreo needs to go.. let the people vote. Why tell him to be quiet and just accept bad mods?

Must be some leftover thought of... what was that that helped found our country? Oh yea..... rebellion against bad leaders.

Just my 2 cents.

Kevin · 10:36 AM

I am saying that those that moderate this forum have final say. I am saying that in the 8 years I have been here I've only seen one moderator admit that they made a moderating mistake. I am saying those that own this forum have put said people in charge. And they don't care what is really going on. As long as the hits keep coming. I am saying making threads like this will only get Tiresias more disliked by those that might abuse their privileges.

No one makes anyone post here. While I can't say I agree to every decision made here, no one makes me post here. I don't pay to post here. They aren't required to offer me a service to which satisfies my moral code.

Everyone makes mistakes. No matter what position in life you are. Does it bother me that when a mod makes a poor decision that he doesn't apologize, or attempt to make it better? Sure. But there is nothing anyone can really do about it. Either deal, or leave.

There are good and bad in any "profession" There will be those that will never admit to mistake. Will always blame the other person. This is just how life is. You cannot change these people. If you show them once, and they don't see. They never will. So continuing doing so just upsets them more.

And in the end, it just creates more hostilities. So if you get banned for some inane wrong reason, just ignore it. Take it, and move on. If you done nothing wrong, and you know it. There should be no problem. And others around you that have common sense will see what is going on, and also take that into consideration.

This very thing above is happening right now as we speak with a handful of people.

I hold no grudges to those that do this. Even though they SHOULD own up and admit to wrong doing, we are only human.

The thing is, most people will have more respect for those that can and do admit when they have said something wrong, or made a wrong decision. It makes the right ones you make even more respectable.

reader50 · Nov 4, 2007, 11:23 AM

I just checked our ban DB, and Oreo doesn't have anyone temp-banned at present. Like other Mods, he only hands out permabans to spammers. Regular-member permabans get handled by Admins.

Tiresias, I'm not seeing whatever incident you have in mind. If you believe a Mod has acted improperly, contact the Mod in question and argue the matter politely. If that doesn't work and you still think the actions were improper, contact an Admin and describe the matter clearly. Try again to make your case as to why the actions were improper.

Originally Posted by Kevin

... I am saying that in the 8 years I have been here I've only seen one moderator admit that they made a moderating mistake. ...

Must be thinking of me. I banned a Cash nick a couple months ago, that was on a rampage about the new iMacs. Turned out to be a new member who hadn't read the posting guidelines. He's since been reinstated.

Oisín · Nov 4, 2007, 11:36 AM

Tiresias, I'm not seeing whatever incident you have in mind.

IIRC, Oreo was the one who banned Tiresias a while ago; and considering Kevin had sent him a PM regarding his apparent recent compulsory holiday (which I hadn’t even noticed, truth be told), I’m assuming Oreo might have been the hand swinging the hammer there, as well.

Lateralus · Nov 4, 2007, 11:39 AM

For the record; I'm the one who banned you for the month of October, Tiresias.

Kevin · 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

I just checked our ban DB, and Oreo doesn't have anyone temp-banned at present. Like other Mods, he only hands out permabans to spammers. Regular-member permabans get handled by Admins.

Oreo bans regulars as well. Not that I am on the "Oreo shouldn't be a mod" club. But he recently had a temp ban on there.

Tiresias, I'm not seeing whatever incident you have in mind. If you believe a Mod has acted improperly, contact the Mod in question and argue the matter politely. If that doesn't work and you still think the actions were improper, contact an Admin and describe the matter clearly. Try again to make your case as to why the actions were improper.

And you might get another ban for it.

Tiresias · Nov 4, 2007, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

For the record; I'm the one who banned you for the month of October, Tiresias.

Lateralus, could you please change the title of this thread to "Oreo and Lateralus should not be mods"?

Thanks.

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 11:48 AM

Yeah Oreo banned you for asking Ricky were he got his avatar balls remember.

That was another

Lateralus · Nov 4, 2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Lateralus, could you please change the title of this thread to "Oreo and Lateralus should not be mods"?

Thanks.

You know... If you wind up 'going on vacation' through the end of the holidays, you're gonna miss my awesome Christmas Ramen.

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 12:22 PM

Come on, lets all put all the chips off all over our shoulders, get the Crisco® out and shake hands.

There is no need for hostility or threats.

I say the thread just gets locked. I am surprised it's gone this long.

Railroader · Nov 4, 2007, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I say the thread just gets locked. I am surprised it's gone this long.

Same here.

Even the best mods make mistakes. I am convinced that no one would make a perfect mod. And some should never be mods. Especially those mods who, while giving me an infraction, insult me and are far ruder than I am in the action I go the infraction for.

It may not be grammatically correct, but you have to admit that last line was quite poetic!

Oisín · Nov 4, 2007, 12:49 PM

It may not be grammatically correct, but you have to admit that last line was quite poetic!

It’s so convoluted you’d think I wrote it.

Tiresias · Nov 4, 2007, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

You know... If you wind up 'going on vacation' through the end of the holidays, you're gonna miss my awesome Christmas Ramen.

No one is going to ban me again. The regulars here would never tolerate it. It's a little embarrassing to admit, but they practically worship me.

brassplayersrock² · Nov 4, 2007, 12:56 PM

[sarcastic voice]uh huh[/sarcastic voice]

Cold Warrior · Nov 4, 2007, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

No one is going to ban me again. The regulars here would never tolerate it. It's a little embarrassing to admit, but they practically worship me.

I've been here since late 2000 in various forms, and I have no idea who you are, nor do I care.

Tiresias · Nov 4, 2007, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I say the thread just gets locked. I am surprised it's gone this long.

Let the poll play out. Muzzling democracy at work? That's unAmerican.

brassplayersrock² · Nov 4, 2007, 01:00 PM

what were your other nicks here Cold Warrior?

Tiresias · Nov 4, 2007, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

I've been here since late 2000 in various forms, and I have no idea who you are, nor do I care.

This is the kind of banter I get all the time from my fans. Good one Coldy.

God I love you guys—but why are you so bashful about expressing your feelings?

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

No one is going to ban me again. The regulars here would never tolerate it. It's a little embarrassing to admit, but they practically worship me.

Unless they have gotten the "treatment" they don't care. And as long as the don't get the treatment, they don't care who does. As long as it's not them.

Better him than me. A sign of a true nobleman.

reader50 · Nov 4, 2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Let the poll play out. Muzzling democracy at work? That's unAmerican.

Please note that MacNN appeals to a wide international audience. Every day, we get many registrations from Asian, European, and Nigerian IPs. I know, because I've been banning them by the dozens. After noting down the better deals, of course.

Peter · Nov 4, 2007, 01:30 PM

Should I be a moderator?

Oisín · Nov 4, 2007, 01:30 PM

Every day, we get many registrations from Asian, European, and Nigerian IPs.

Oisín · Nov 4, 2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

Should I be a moderator?

Only if you can moderate while riding a pony.

(Damn, had to wait 30 seconds, too!)

Rumor · Nov 4, 2007, 02:05 PM

Tiresias,

You start this thread asking for OC to be disallowed or whatever as a mod. At least that is your intention. Anyways, supposedly for handing out bans like Halloween Candy which isn't the case. So, you are bringing up a complaint against a mod that didn't ban you. Besides, the last time you got banned was for being an asshat and not too long after that ban was listed, you had to be warned to watch yourself. So, who is the problem here?

bishopazrael · Nov 4, 2007, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

You know... If you wind up 'going on vacation' through the end of the holidays, you're gonna miss my awesome Christmas Ramen.

Christmas Ramen????

WTF???? can I get some???

bishopazrael · Nov 4, 2007, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

Please note that MacNN appeals to a wide international audience. Every day, we get many registrations from Asian, European, and Nigerian IPs. I know, because I've been banning them by the dozens. After noting down the better deals, of course.

Now see .... right there... a mod abusing his powers... by not sharing!!

Actually Im glad you guys do ban those guys... i get those damn things in my feeds from a Treo forum.. hate them to hell and no one bans them. Inevitably in 2 or 3 days, someone always posts about how they got ripped off. DUHHHH~!

Tiresias · Nov 4, 2007, 02:46 PM

Rumor wears pink panties.

brassplayersrock² · Nov 4, 2007, 02:47 PM

do they say "juicy"?

MacosNerd · Nov 4, 2007, 02:51 PM

I see Tiresias you're picking up your whining where you left off.

As before your ban, your railing against macnn and its mods. If you don't like it here, or how is moderated leave. Nobody is forcing you to be a member.

For the record I was surprised that the mods (who had shown great restraint) had not banned you sooner then the one on October.

If I were to choose who should be voted off the island, you or Lat (or Oreo) You'd get my vote. You don't even know which mod to rail against.

Rumor · Nov 4, 2007, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Rumor wears pink panties.

Wow, that really validates any complaint you can come up with. Good job.

Originally Posted by MacosNerd

I see Tiresias you're picking up your whining where you left off.

As before your ban, your railing against macnn and its mods. If you don't like it here, or how is moderated leave. Nobody is forcing you to be a member.

For the record I was surprised that the mods (who had shown great restraint) had not banned you sooner then the one on October.

If I were to choose who should be voted off the island, you or Lat (or Oreo) You'd get my vote. You don't even know which mod to rail against.

QFT.

Tiresias · Nov 4, 2007, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by MacosNerd

I see Tiresias you're picking up your whining where you left off.

As before your ban, your railing against macnn and its mods. If you don't like it here, or how is moderated leave. Nobody is forcing you to be a member.

For the record I was surprised that the mods (who had shown great restraint) had not banned you sooner then the one on October.

If I were to choose who should be voted off the island, you or Lat (or Oreo) You'd get my vote. You don't even know which mod to rail against.

Ha! Classic MacosNerd jest.

As DeLillo says, it's the stand-up scorn that carries men's affections.

Thanks.

Lateralus · Nov 4, 2007, 03:06 PM

Walking down the road of life, people change. Seasons change. And when not let go of, October bans become November bans.

See you in December, Tiresias.

Rumor · Nov 4, 2007, 03:07 PM

How poetic Lat.

OreoCookie · Nov 4, 2007, 03:58 PM

So this is what happens when you leave MacNN over dinner …

@Tiresias
Not everybody likes Oreos, that's a fact of life. And even if we like them, we know that every once in a while, you have a bad Oreo in your box. This wasn't one of your times. I haven't had anything to do with your last ban or the ban before.

… going back to real life for desert …

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 04:33 PM

And what I predicted would happen. Did. Congrats Tire.

reader50 · Nov 4, 2007, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by bishopazrael

Originally Posted by reader50

... After noting down the better deals, of course.

Now see .... right there... a mod abusing his powers... by not sharing!!

...

Here ya go. I reposted some of the better deals awhile back. Try to set a spending limit before you click.

imitchellg5 · Nov 4, 2007, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

Here ya go. I reposted some of the better deals awhile back. Try to set a spending limit before you click.

That had me rolling! That's pretty sweet. I almost ordered a ton of guns then I realized that Nigerians prolly don't have access to those in jail.

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Walking down the road of life, people change.

I wish that were so. It doesn't seem like it here.

What people in these forums that aren't part of the status quo need to come to grips with is, no one is unbiased. People do take grudges out on others, and life isn't fair.

One should always however, take responsibilities for ones actions.

Be it mod or user. Without the one, there is no other.

Railroader · Nov 4, 2007, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

The thing is, most people will have more respect for those that can and do admit when they have said something wrong, or made a wrong decision. It makes the right ones you make even more respectable.

Like ghporter. He is very respectable. Not afraid to admit a mistake and fix it. I guess that's why he got the recent promotion.

Lateralus · Nov 4, 2007, 07:48 PM

Ultimate Confections : Solid Chocolate Brown Nose (3 pieces) [M05] - $5.95

Railroader · Nov 4, 2007, 08:05 PM

Now Lat on the other hand....

Dude, I was complimenting a mod. Offering a word of encouragement. Showing appreciating for a job well done. ... and you go and basically be a jerk.

And you guys wonder why some people can't stand you...

Lateralus · Nov 4, 2007, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Dude, I was complimenting a mod.

Hey, have some respect; Admin

You're just upset that I surprised you with one of the few brown nose web links you hadn't seen before.

Timo · Nov 4, 2007, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Walking down the road of life, people change. Seasons change. And when not let go of, October bans become November bans.

All the leaves are brown
And the sky is grey
I went for a walk
On a winter's day
I'd be safe and warm
If I was in L.A.
California dreamin'
On such a winter's day

See you in December, Tiresias.

All the leaves are brown (the leaves are brown)
And the sky is grey (and the sky is grey)
I went for a walk (I went for a walk)
On a winter's day (on a winter's day)
If I didn't tell her (shifuimam)
I could leave today (leave this place)

MacNN dreamin' on Su-un-day