[Circa]

I am a master at flash and I would love to be able to have a flash sig here. I tried to use some of the same code another forum used to embed it but it didn't work. Is there a way to do it? Or are you disallowing swf files all together here? If this is the case I would be very dissapointed, because man there would be some good ones here. And plus people could keep the file sizes down. I know my sig would only be 100 wide by 40 long or even smaller. So what do you say can you allow swf files or can you show us the code to use?




Thank you so much,
Circa

[Circa]

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[Circa]

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[ 06-10-2001: Message edited by: Circa ]

[Circa]

Sorry was trying to test an swf sig, but realized you can't use html. Hopefully someone will be able to help me and others here.

[mac freak]

Would be nice... for some of us.
56k users don't want to load a bunch o' Flash movies for each thread.
And anyway, since the admins here are very strict about simple image sigs, the guidelines for Flash sigs could be, uh, very prohibiting.

[Circa]

The thing is that you can make a good flash sig small and make it very small in download size. It doesn't have to be a movie but rather a simple loops of animation. I hope a moderator would do it, or an admin.

MacNN www.were-here.com has the code in there forums, if your interested take a look and see what you think. Remember flash doesn't always have to be big in fact its usually smaller than most gif animations.

[elzinat]

it is true that flash animations are tiny (in d/l size).
however, please note that we no longer allow any animated sigs.
another problem with flash is that many many people don't use it. by which i mean, many people don't have the shockwave plugin for their browser. it would not be good if every time one of these people loaded a topic to which you had posted, they were bombarded with instructions to download that software.

[Circa]

They say that 85% of people do actually, or over its a really high number. But I understand if you really don't want animated stuff I can see where your coming from.

[elzinat]

Originally posted by Circa:
<STRONG>They say that 85% of people do actually, or over its a really high number.</STRONG>

wow, I'm quite impressed.

[mac freak]

Not to mention that -- if it's a long thread and the user has a slow computer -- playing 10 different Flash movies simultaneously could be quite a resource drain.

I'm mainly against this since I'd feel obligated to make one if I was allowed but I like my sig the way it is! Stupid reason, yeah. But hey, we're all weird in our own weird little ways.

[Cipher13]

"When will you have embedded SWF support for sigs?"

Never, I hope. I hate Flash with a passion...

If Flash comes, I go.

[ 06-16-2001: Message edited by: Cipher13 ]

[Circa]

You hate flash!

Its probably the best new media tool on the interent to get your message out there, that is the most pitiful thing I have heard all day man. Go to were-here.com check out the forums the people its a whole new way we will use the web. God I thought you said that you want to learn it? Maby that was someone else on icq.

If you get into web design hardcore you will realize its an asset you need.


The other thing is many people are jealous (not that you are) but many people don't have the patients or talent to use flash. So then they go on how flash is to big and takes a while to load. To tell you the truth I am on a 56k connection getting 2-3k second. Am I complaning? Hell no!


Nuff said,
Circa

[Demonhood]

i love flash. so thanx for the were-here link.

but i don't think i'd appreciate it if people were posting swf files left and right (especially in their sigs). it'd slow things down in the forums, and it'd be really obnoxious to boot.

flash has its uses. being uses in sigs or as buttons on a UBB site is not one of them.

[Circa]

But you see this is the thing, I gave the link of Were-Here to show that the forums load fine and people aren't idiots to make a sig that is fast loading. We can do the same here and have a limit to how large in download and physical size it can be. It just bugs me that people that don't know much about flash just go out and say its to big. 95% percent or more of people here at MacNN probably don't use flash or wouldn't know how to go about making a sig. So you wouldn't have to worry about it being out of control. I know though that there would be some members that would make some kick as sigs including me and others.

And ya Cipher if MacNN let the embedment of flash be in sigs would you really leave? If so that is poor dedication to the forum in my opinion but you may thing that is worth leaving so I don't wanna get in the way of that. Its like people that post they do it for the number count and not for what really has to be said.

[Demonhood]

you've got to consider a few things here though circa:

1) a lot of people that visit this forum don't have fast machines. flash, while being tiny, still has to load a plug-in in order to operate. someone with powermac 8100 isn't going to have a lot of fun on a site with a bunch of small flash files, no matter how fast their connection is.

2) you can export from flash to an animated gif. so why leave those 10% that don't have the plugin (or, for a forum like this, people using browsers that are only partially flash enabled, like OmniWeb) in the dark?

[Circa]

The fact is that animated gifs are not allowed in the forums, so I thought flash would be better cause it actually in fact loads faster. This is if you have an animation in gif and swf format your flash file is going to load faster.

Trust me.

[elzinat]

the most important bottom line is that we don't allow any animated sigs anymore.
if you want to debate the relative merits of different animation formats for online content distribution, might I suggest our Web Dev forum? http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ulti...forum&amp;f=43

[daimoni]

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[Cipher13]

Originally posted by Circa:
<STRONG>And ya Cipher if MacNN let the embedment of flash be in sigs would you really leave? If so that is poor dedication to the forum in my opinion but you may thing that is worth leaving so I don't wanna get in the way of that. Its like people that post they do it for the number count and not for what really has to be said.</STRONG>

Yeah, I would.
You can criticise my dedication when you have 8000 posts.

[Steve]

Hold up Cipher - 15 more before 8000, you better hold your horses!

[Circa]

lol, whatever...


Don't make me mad daimoni! Just keep going...

You want me to prove my knowledge of flash? Ok stop by Were'Here look for my member name on the forums. Then you will see who is dedicated, my alias there is Flasher Media. Stay a while then we will see who knows his flash, I am well known there. Anyway if you go there you will see sigs that are fast loading and all, so next time you tell me I don't know what I am talking about think again.

You made me very mad saying that

[Circa]

Oh and btw my portfolio site will be up soon on the web. I will post it just for you to see and then also you can see some sigs in my examples section. My site will be 100% flash.

In the early days of www.shockfusion.com I was one of the beta testers who helped make the site. Still want to test my on my knowledge just make me throw you some more material!

[Circa]

daimoni sorry if I sounded a little harsh there, didn't wan to get mad just wanted to get the point out. I think you understand.

[Avenir]

all this over signiature files?

[Moonray]

I can't await that Circa gets hired by Apple to design the first full animated GUI where everything will blink and move but a few remaining informational letters which couldn't be eliminated soon enough for the first release.

If I couldn't live without blinking lights that I would turn on a tv, look up to the ad at the top of this page, or move to Las Vegas.

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[Moonray]

Eh... is the quality of my posting affected by any signature, be it text only, graphical or a 10 minute movie?

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[Moonray]

How about support for force feedback keyboards?

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