[rambo47]

Check out the unregistered troll posting here. This is why only registered members should be able to post.

[Jansar]

Ugh, that IS annoying. And very immature...

I also don't like people who try to flame me, for instance, when I make a mistake in my comments. Take this loser, for instance.

drjoe
Member
Posts: 80
From: lovettsville,VA,USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 01-06-2002 08:32 PM                  
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Originally posted by Jansar:

Not really. But, however, I am curious why you don't at least buy a cheap iMac (instead of all those different computer parts) that lets you run OS X without having to go through painful configurations. The cheapest iMac you can find can run OS X.

Apple specifically says that OS X does not run on their beige G3 machines. Despite what people may believe (as if speed was a problem), the old firmware might also not support the new OS.
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For a 'Senior Member' it is at least advisable that you know what you are talking about. Apple does not, in any sense, indicate that the Beige G3 Power Mac is not supported under OSX. In fact, specific Apple says: [from their web site]:

Power Macintosh G3 (All-In-One, Desktop, Mini Tower, Server)
Power Macintosh G3 (Blue and White)
(processor upgrade cards not supported)
 
So that takes care of that. Now - installing the OSX.

While OSX runs just peachy on a Beige G3, it takes some care. I have swapped by internal HD for an IBM 45 gig Deskstar. You apparently [I refer to Toncody and not the abysmally ignorant 'senior member'] partitioned your HD and are installing it on the first partition. If the installation apparently working - going forward - or are you dumped into Open Firmware after the installation is complete. Is your partition being done before you partition by a third party piece of software? The installation has be to installed on a master IDE drive, in the first partition and in the first 8 gigabytes. Another problem may be the cpu. Is it an Apple G3 processor. There are apparently problems in the firmware present on the ZIF modules. For example XLR8 processors hae roms on their modules that will interfere with booting. CHeck with the supplier of the upgrade if there are any special requirements for software that they supply. There have been problems reported with some CD ram devices so it may be worth while to re-replace the CDROM with the original device at least until the system is working solidly.
Do not despair. Your machine is designed for OSX but the earlier machines are a little less forgiving in the area of hardware upgrades. I have a Rev A DT G3 - 233Mz - upgraded many times over. The CDR is a late model Sony. the two drives are IBM Deskstars [as an added bonus the slaves positions are enables under OSX een though they don't work in )S9.x]. There is 768 Meg of ram and a 500 Mz G4 processor from XLR8. The onboard scsi works in OSX just fine - in fact everything works in OSX just fine. Be of good heart and we will try to help as much as we can.

As far as our "Senior Member' goes perhaps he might like to inform us what the he** is wrong with upgrading a perfectly good machine to maintain one's investment. Why buy a new machine when over a period of years you can upgrade, learn something about your computer [which apparent;y you [seniormember] haven't and embarased yourself publicly. Now go and learn something about OSX.

[Westbo]

Originally posted by rambo47:
<STRONG>Check out the unregistered troll posting here. This is why only registered members should be able to post.</STRONG>

Jeez, that's pretty bad stuff all right. Can the admins delete and ban this poster?

[Cellery]

Maybe the mods have the day off, I'm surprised that garbage has stayed up for so long.

[Grozni Majmun]

Originally posted by Westbo:
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Jeez, that's pretty bad stuff all right. Can the admins delete and ban this poster? </STRONG>

They can delete it, but they cannot ban the guy, since he is not registered. That is why rambo47 suggests that only registered members should be able to post.

I don't think it is necessary to ban the unregistered posters.

Firstly because they could just register with a hotmail account and post away. Once they got banned, they could just get a new hotmail account and reregister. Sure it is a little more trouble, but my point is that it would not necessarily get rid of the problem.

Secondly, most of the time unregistered posting is used responsibly by people who don't remember their password or don't want to register but still have legit questions.

Thirdly, sometimes the trolls are hilarious. I remember some really funny comments by "wiggles". I agree that this one wasn't funny (I don't even think he was trying).

[Osirisis]

I second this. They've gone and locked down the main page so only registered users can post. The same should be true here. I'm really tired of the wiggles garbage going on in the imac forum. I'm trying to get uselful information from the forums and all I get in the useless Mac vs. PC splattering that's goign on in there.

Why oh why can unregistered users post?

[AKcrab]

I agree. Make folks register to post. Posting is a privilege, not a right.

How come none of these suggestion threads have any comments from mods?

[Nebrie]

Originally posted by Osirisis:
<STRONG>I second this. They've gone and locked down the main page so only registered users can post. The same should be true here. I'm really tired of the wiggles garbage going on in the imac forum. I'm trying to get uselful information from the forums and all I get in the useless Mac vs. PC splattering that's goign on in there.

Why oh why can unregistered users post? </STRONG>

Agreed. It was bad enough when wiggles trolled the Peripherals forum, but now he's trolling places that people actually go to. It's not like he's spreading correct information either. It's really not good.

Supposedly because a lot of people with real problems can post without registering I think. Just make them register. It takes 2 seconds. There's not many of them. And if they don't, it'll just bring down the server load.

[Synotic]

Just a note... I believe unregistered users can be banned. The UBB logs their IPs just like everyone else.

[Michael T. Doyle]

Wiggles is really bad news. I think MacNN should restrict posting to registered users like most other bulletin boards do.

MacNN is really the only forum I read where this stuff is such a big problem. It's also the only one that doesn't restrict posting to registered users.

[gorgonzola]

I've added members-only access to the four main hardware forums. Note that just because someone is a member does not mean they won't spew crap.

[ 01-12-2002: Message edited by: gorgonzola ]

[Cellery]

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
<STRONG>I've added members-only access to the four main hardware forums. Note that just because someone is a member does not mean they won't spew crap.

[ 01-12-2002: Message edited by: gorgonzola ]</STRONG>

Thanks. Being registered has a certain level of accountability that posting anon doesn't. Even though regged members may say some bad stuff too, it's great not seeing wiggles / other trolls who love to post anon to inflame others.