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porieux · Jun 3, 2002, 02:01 PM

Fonts are way too small to read on Netscape Mac.

Easy to fix: use 'px' in your stylesheet to specify
font size instead of 'pt' to get cross platform consistency.

Jun 3, 2002, 06:57 PM

porieux, thanks for the tip.

MacNN.com uses px, i'll see about getting this stylesheet changed.

[ 06-03-2002, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: Nick ]

gorgonzola · Jun 3, 2002, 10:11 PM

How about now? I've switched it to px.

Tristrami · Jun 4, 2002, 03:38 PM

i still can't see them.

porieux · Jun 4, 2002, 05:20 PM

They are still very small. Sorry, I neglected to mention
that in addition to changing to px, you also need to tweak
the actual values, since px and pt are different units of measurement.
Once you get the right sizes though, px will be consistent
across browsers and platforms (or at least more consistent)

[ 06-04-2002, 06:26 PM: Message edited by: porieux ]

dreilly1 · Jun 6, 2002, 09:21 AM

My fonts are very small too, I'm on a PC running Netscape 4.6 at work .
No amount of tweaking font sized within Netscape seems to work.

I'm afraid I can't really read MacNN now at work until this gets fixed.

Oh well, maybe I just have to be productive now.

[ 06-06-2002, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: dreilly1 ]

gorgonzola · Jun 6, 2002, 11:26 AM

Is it like this in all your browsers, or just Netscape 4.x?

Jun 6, 2002, 11:41 AM

Just Netscape 4.x apparently. They look ok in both NS 6 and 7 for Windoze on a D-Hell.

dreilly1 · Jun 7, 2002, 08:35 AM

The fonts look normal on my work PC using IE 5.0 .

But I have other reasons for not using IE at work <img border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" title="" src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" /> , so I'm still waiting for the Netscape problem to be solved.

gorgonzola · Jun 7, 2002, 10:30 AM

What about now, in this thread?

BTW, just for reference, this is how it's supposed to look, and what we're trying to get it to look like in all browsers:

<img src="http://neal.macnn.com/images/Mozilla001.png" alt=" - " />

[ 06-07-2002, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: gorgonzola ]

dreilly1 · Jun 7, 2002, 01:32 PM

Ahh, that's better. And the whole site is better, not just this thread.

Now the fonts are still somewhat smallish, (and smaller thanin your reference image), but they're readable now.

Thanks!

Big Mac · Jun 7, 2002, 03:44 PM

I <a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000732#000001" target="_blank">posted</a> about the exact same issue just after the forum upgrade but got no meaningful response. I'm glad it's fixed now; it's also nice to know I'm not the only fan of Netscape 4.7.x.

gorgonzola · Jun 7, 2002, 06:51 PM

OK, glad it's working now.

[ 06-07-2002, 08:18 PM: Message edited by: gorgonzola ]

Matsu · Jun 8, 2002, 06:49 AM

Hi guys, I'm using IE 5.5 on a PC, and I use IE (i dunno which) on macs in the lab.

The range of font sizes seems much too small, with the largest looking, to me, more like a legible medium size. And the smallest being just too small. (It does look a bit better on the macs, though.

I hope you can find a way to increase all the font sizes just a touch. It's not a comp-sci lab, we don't know anything about computers really, we just seem to have some money in this dept.

Is there anything I can do to my PC fonts to render the text a little bigger?

Jun 13, 2002, 03:23 PM

Strange.

I posted above about fonts looking OK on NS 6 & 7 on a D-Hell at work. I went home that night and now this site (or at least the posts themselves, the gifs at the top come in but the rest of the page is blank) won't come in on NS 4.08 on the Mac.

Don't know what adjustment you made that day, but could you change it back? The fonts were strange. small and hard to read back then but at least the entire page loaded.

No problem w/ iCab 2.7.

Jun 20, 2002, 12:32 PM

Still can't get posts list to show in window for MacNN forums in NS 4.08 for Mac since you made whatever adjustments you did to fonts html code.

Filburt · Dec 2, 2002, 10:34 PM

The font size is altogether too small for Chimera 0.6 (and Mozilla) as well. I must select View | Bigger Text to make things legible. Otherwise, I quickly get a headache squinting my eyes.

Please make 'em larger (or offer alternate stylesheet or option).

Zimphire · Dec 2, 2002, 11:05 PM

I just set the font size limit higher in Chimera. No longer any small fonts. MacNN looks great.

Sven G · Dec 6, 2002, 09:22 AM

It's especially the italic style which is very ugly and badly readable at the normal, 100% size in most browsers: this should be fixed. For example, one might want to have parts of the text in one's signature (see quotations) in italics, but it'a almost a necessity to use straight style and quotation marks instead, because of that readability problem. Anyway, at 120% (or more) text zoom, italics look quite good...

Filburt · Dec 9, 2002, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I just set the font size limit higher in Chimera. No longer any small fonts. MacNN looks great.

I am aware of that, but I shouldn't have to.

I really hope moderating members of MacNN QA the forum with Chimera, which is quickly becoming very popular among Mac users.

Brien · Dec 9, 2002, 09:36 PM

You have to think of us Mac users stuck on a Wintel box at school (or work) though.

TheIceMan · Dec 11, 2002, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by Filburt:
The font size is altogether too small for Chimera 0.6 (and Mozilla) as well. I must select View | Bigger Text to make things legible. Otherwise, I quickly get a headache squinting my eyes.

Please make 'em larger (or offer alternate stylesheet or option).

I just posted a comment saying the same thing in another thread. Yes, once I increase the view to 120% in Mozilla everything looks great. But at the normal 100% MacNN looks HORRIBLE. The font is too small and looks like the IE browser of old. Those of us who visit often need to be able to see clearly. I sit 15" away from my screen and still have trouble reading the font. That's with perfect vision too. Anything MacNN can do to correct the font/font size would be greatly appreciated.

TheIceMan · Dec 11, 2002, 02:21 AM

http://www.spymac.com/forums/
Spymac's forum seems to have the right idea in terms of font size.

reader50 · Dec 11, 2002, 02:53 PM

I looked. The fonts render the same size as our Forum does. (iCab, X.2.2). However, they are less readable because they are using Verdana instead of Geneva as the default font.

TheIceMan · Dec 11, 2002, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by reader50:
I looked. The fonts render the same size as our Forum does. (iCab, X.2.2). However, they are less readable because they are using Verdana instead of Geneva as the default font.

It may render the same size under iCab, but have you checked Netscape/Mozilla, OmniWeb, and IE? I ran both MacNN forum (where the font is tiny) and compared it to Spymac's forum. Check out IE's version. Big difference. I'm not trying to be difficult, but this is afterall feedback on improving this forum. At 120% view in Mozilla, this forum looks GREAT. Now if we can just adjust the standard font type and size.