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Whats with the Office 2001 forum?
That is covered by 3rd party software.
There are now too many forums... and people that surf the 3rd pary software forum won't go to the Office forum just to check for probs with Office...
Keep all the hardware forums (perhaps add a Cube one).
Keep OS X as it is (it needed to be like that)
Dump the office forum, DV, mp3, netscape, IE, outlook.
Merge IE, OE and netscape into "Internet forum" or something.
Merge mp3 and DV into "multimedia forum" or something.
Put Office in the 3rd party forum.
Keep "other topics" as is.
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it just shows to go you, you can't please all the peepul all the time! "there's not enuff 4um categories!" and then, "there's 2 many 4um categories!" and then, "there's 2 many 2 centses!" and whose two freekin centses would it beez if 'twasn't the perp who posted the tuppence?
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I agree with Cipher. The Office 2001 forum is redundant; keep it within the Third-party Software forum. The others seem fine to me. 
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I too think there are too many forums. There were about half as many when I registered only at the beginning of the summer! The new fora have superseded the old, and cheapened the whole experience! I kid you not! When the Lounge was introduced, I knew it would suck everyone away from the News and Advocacy. The same thing happened to the QT forum when DV was started. I don't go to the IE, OE, or NS fora, but i would if they were put together as "internet". Same goes for DV, QT, and MP3 going to a multimedia forum. Those 6 topics are just too specific. As for Office 2001, I sure hope it doesn't need a whole forum to itself - it belongs in 3rd party SW. In short, I completely agree with Cipher.
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I also agree. There are now 33 active fora, and this shows on a personal level. I like to help other Mac users, especially newbies. But it is impractical to follow so many places. I do not visit any of the "Special Topics" Fora, and have stopped visiting a couple others as well.
In addition to Cipher's suggestions, I would suggest a 25-Fora cap. The next time the latest "whiz-bang Forum" gets created, a current Forum must be dumped or merged into another Forum.
And dump the Mp3 Forum. I did not hear anyone request that one, and it is a real sleeper hit if I have ever seen one.
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I'd like to see some naturalist's forums, where we might discuss the status of wild plants and animals. It might perhaps be called the Flora and Fauna Fora.
Say! This isn't National Geographic. Uh ... sorry.
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I come back, and it's like if I came home and my bookshelves had all been moved to different rooms of the house! I'm confused... where to go? too many fora!..
the effect is quite startling now when I arrive on the Forums page, that the list of forums is sooo long.
the entire "Special Topics" section should not exist. "Internet" and "Multimedia" under "SW" sounds like a good idea to replace that set.inshort, I agree with cipher.
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mp3 forum is pretty dumb. Cipher is right. Less forums = better
mac modifications needs to stay though.
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Notice how few people have posted in this thread, not to mention the other threads in this forum? I think it is a pretty strong testament to the fragmentation of our fora! People don't even have time to come here anymore... what a catch 22! Reconcile the situation!
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I'll post a link to this in the moderator forum. I hope something will be done about this. You all are right...
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What do you think about merging the PowerBook and iBook forums? I don't think we should merge the Power Mac and iMac forums - they are almost completely differnet products. The notebooks, however, share a lot with each other, and could be discussed in one forum.
I'd like to see what people think of this idea...
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I can't say from experience anything about the portables (hopefully that will change within 10-15 months...) but I think combining the Software fora as suggested above would really be the way to go. I mean, i think most of the issues in the hardware fora are not specific to the hardware anyway, but that's OK. Let's economize where it is most obvious first tho...
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Indeed, first things first, one step at a time is the best way to go.
Kill the excess fora off bit by bit...
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Think of this logistically...
What will happen to the moderators of the forums that you kill? For example, the PowerBook/iBook forum would have three moderators. Do you think it's too much policing?
In any case, I don't want to say goodbye to the moderators that we picked up over these few months. They've done a superb job, and are invaluable additions to our team, agreed? 
Just a thought.
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Also, do you think the "Mac Jobs" and "Buy/Sell" forums should be combined? I, for one, don't visit the "Mac Jobs" forum. Does anyone here find it useful?
Also, the "Macs in the Media" doesn't serve much purpose, in my humble opinion. Could that be combined with the lounge?
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I wish to suggest combining the "OS X General Discussion" and the "OS X Support" Forums into one "OS X Public Beta" Forum. I know there are tons of posts there, but the same kinds of posts seem to make it into both Fora. I have been cruising and answering some in the Support Forum, then visited the General Discussion for the first time in several days. It looked very familiar.
Combining the Book forums seemes possible, but the PB G4 is due anytime. I have no strong feeling on this, and no experience with either `book.
Why should we be limited to two moderators per Forum? Some Fora have so much traffic that three or four Mods would be a good idea.
Also, some special interest Fora could be spun off into private Forums like the Seti Forum. The PDA and Macs In The Media seem good candidates for this. Link to them from the front page.
- Thanks for noticing our little thread.
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I think the forums should be rated by the user's responce:
Over 500 Reply Forums:
Power Mac G3/G4/Cube
iMac
PowerBook
iBook
Older Systems & Clones
Peripherals
AirPort and Networking
Mac OS
Third-party Software
Mac Games
OS X - General Discussion
OS X - Support
Internet Explorer 5.0
Outlook Express 5.0
Quicktime 4
AppleScript
DV - Desktop Movies
MacNN Lounge
Mac Modification
Macs In The Media
Suggestions and Commments
News and Advocacy
Buy/Sell
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PDA
Linux on Mac
OS X - Developer
OS X - Server
Netscape 6.0
MP3
Mac Office 2001
Mac Jobs
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Well, that's a very good point, except that you can't just kill a forum unless you can reasonably combine it with something else, and a more logical way to rate user response would be to divide the number of posts by how long the forum has been in existence. I don't have the time or energy to do that right now, but you get the point...
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I think any forums without any "Hot Topics" should go.
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Originally posted by MacOS761:
...a more logical way to rate user response would be to divide the number of posts by how long the forum has been in existence. I don't have the time or energy to do that right now...
Ahhhh, but I do. I have tallied everything up with my trusty calculator, and have come up with some surprising results. For everyone who doesn't believe the following list, you can add them up yourself and you will get the same results. BTW, the results are within a few posts (3 or under). Enjoy:
Place - Forum - Posts Per Month (Approx.)
01 - Mac Office 2001 - 7504*
02 - OS X - Support - 5038
03 - MacNN Lounge - 1544
04 - iMac - 827
05 - Power Mac G3/G4/Cube - 536
06 - Mac Modification - 455
07 - PowerBook - 422
08 - Mac Games - 419
09 - Mac OS - 407
10 - OS X - General Discussion - 401
11 - Third-party Software - 333
12 - Peripherals - 314
13 - Internet Explorer 5.0 - 291
14 - iBook - 255
15 - DV (Desktop Movies) - 168
16 - PDA - 157
17 - Linux on Mac - 154
17 - News and Advocacy - 154
18 - AirPort and Networking - 143
19 - MP3 - 132*
20 - Older Systems & Clones - 116
21 - Outlook Express 5.0 - 115
22 - Buy/Sell - 82
23 - Suggestions and Commments - 81
24 - Quicktime 4 - 68
25 - Netscape 6.0 - 66
26 - Mac Jobs - 59*
27 - AppleScript - 46
28 - Macs In The Media - 43
29 - OS X - Developer - 21
30 - OS X - Server - 17
*these forums have only been around for a month or less, so their numbers may change soon.
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OSX Server and Developer have also only been around for under a month.
Same with the other 2 X forums really, but posts from the old X have been moved around a lot mainly between those two...
A lot just staying though.
So then... some administrator input really would be nice here (hint hint, what do you think???)
If no admin posts... well, I guess maybe not enough people are seeing this thread... how about I post a link in every other forum to it???
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Are you kidding??? That would take for ever!
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We are considering the options...
We deliberately split up OS X General and Support because our OS X forum was getting too much traffic.
If you see similar posts in Support and General, please point it out... I thought we've been doing a pretty good job of ensuring the threads in each category remain seperate and reflective of the category's topic...
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Thanks, I'm glad you folks have picked up on this one. I suppose you have noticed the sentiments in the "Can we have a BeOS Forum?" thread as well... umm.. talk amongst yourselves. 
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maybe change the Linux forum to an 'Alternative OS' forum...
but i do not think there are too many fora, the categories are well delineated and seem to 'cover the bases'
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Since Sean asked specifically about merging iBook and PowerBook, I thought I'd say that it sounded like a good idea.. While I own neither, I have been asking a few questions in both fora to help me decide which to buy. I've wished even before reading this thread that they were combined.
But now I'm wondering if it might not combine two completely different groups of people - "iBook user" paints an entirely different picture in my head than does "PowerBook user". - maybe they shouldn't mix. Maybe that's stereotypical, too (zit-faced college student vs. suit-wearing office dweller?) Come to think of it, the farmer and the cowhand should be friends.
Macs in the Media seems like it may have been more exciting about 2-3 years ago when you never saw macs in the media and it was a special occasion when you did. I say let's change it to Commodores in the Media. THAT would be interesting.
Finally, while I think it's useful to see how many posts each fora receive, for something like Mac Jobs (which I like!), it might be misleading... there, it's not really so much a discussion as it is somewhere where one thing might be posted and 5,000 people read it, but nobody knows. Maybe a hit counter would be more accurate there.
Blah, blah.
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I agree with you, Cipher. Get rid of "Macs in the Media" and "MP3". Bundle "IE 5", "OE5", "Netscape 6" into one forum: "Internet Apps"
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I agree with all that--Office forum should be under 3rd party software, etc...
however, what about a "Memory" forum? or should there be a policy that all memory questions get directed to the mac modification forum?
All I know is, I'm watching 4 threads right now for memory questions/issues. it'd be easier if they were all in one spot.
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Probs I can see with a memory forum:
1. Sometimes it can't be determined straight away whether a prob is memory related.
2. Newbies would post hard drive questions and stuff there, getting confused about the term 'memory', and so on...
Other than that...
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Ax some forums. Too many of them
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Come on, its obvious people want to cut the number of forums...
How long does it take to 'consider the options'?
Well, thats only if you take it in the literal sense...
Its ACTUAL meaning is "shut up and quit whingeing".
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I agree, far to many forums!!!!
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What does everyone think of this 24 fora line-up?
Hardware - Troubleshooting & General Discussion
--Power Mac G3/G4/Cube
--iMac
--PowerBook/iBook
--Older Systems & Clones
--Peripherals
--AirPort and Networking
--PDA
Software - Troubleshooting & General Discussion
--Mac OS
--Alternate OSes
--Third-party Software (which would include Mac Office 2001)
Mac OS X
--OS X - General Discussion
--OS X - Support
--OS X - Developer
--OS X - Server
Special Topics
--Mac Games
--Internet Software (which would include IE, OE, N6...)
--Multimedia (which would include Q4, DV, MP3)
--AppleScript
Other Topics
--MacNN Lounge (which would include Macs in the Media, Mac Jobs)
--Mac Modification
--Suggestions and Comments
--News and Advocacy
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Looks good to me. Mac Jobs might be a better fit in News and Advocacy.
Oh, I withdraw my suggestion to merge X General with X Support. I was probably seeing locked threads that had been moved already. That would explain why they looked so familiar. Scott_H does a fine job in there.
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How about this:
Hardware - Troubleshooting & General Discussion
--Power Mac G3/G4/Cube
--iMac
--PowerBook/iBook
--Older Systems & Clones
--Peripherals & AirPort and Networking
--PDA
Software - Troubleshooting & General Discussion
--Mac OS
--Alternate OSes
--Third-party Software (which would include Mac Office 2001)
Mac OS X
--OS X - General Discussion
--OS X - Support
--OS X - Developer
--OS X - Server
Special Topics
--Mac Games
--Internet Software (which would include IE, OE, N6...)
--Multimedia (which would include Q4, DV, MP3)
Other Topics
--MacNN Lounge (which would include Macs in the Media, Mac Jobs)
--Mac Modification
--Suggestions and Comments
--News and Advocacy
--Moderators [Private]
Buy sell is rarely used, but we can instead integrate it into all other forums, if you are selling an iMac post in iMac forum...
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Looks good to me
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Good idea Ca$h, but with the vast difference between the discussed materials, it may be better to keep peripherals and airport separate. I agree now that Mac Jobs should go under the News and Advocacy forum.
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Cash, your lineup looks good, but like Bockie said, Peripherals and Networking don't mix so well. Maybe Peripherals and PDAs together? I think Mac Jobs fits better in News, too. Whither AppleScript? You should edit your post and have that rolled into (Classic) MacOS for now. This will be interesting when OS 9 being phased out more... I suppose it will require another, more slight reorganization. Hmm. Cool.
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Oops, didn't notice. Yeah, keep networking seperate.
What about a programming kinda thing... that could take the place of AppleScript, and have them both covered in there.
That could cover AppleScript, C++, etc... and even HTML, JS etc...
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Bockie's line-up (revised) 24 General Fora, 25-26 total Fora
Hardware - Troubleshooting & General Discussion
--Power Mac G3/G4/Cube
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--PowerBook/iBook
--Older Systems & Clones
--Peripherals
--AirPort and Networking
--PDA
Software - Troubleshooting & General Discussion
--Mac OS
--Alternate OSes
--Third-party Software
Mac OS X
--OS X - General Discussion
--OS X - Support
--OS X - Developer
--OS X - Server
Special Topics
--Mac Games
--Internet Software (which would include IE, OE, N6...)
--Multimedia (which would include QT, DV, MP3)
--Hobbyist Programming (AppleScript, C, REALbasic, HTML, JS, etc.)
--Mac Office 2001
Other General Topics
--MacNN Lounge (which would include Macs in the Media)
--Mac Modification
--Suggestions and Comments
--News and Advocacy (which would include Mac Jobs)
--Moderators [Private]
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Private Fora (linked from the front page)
--SETI at MacNN
--Buy/Sell (or in each Forum by product type)
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great idea but.....
what's the difference between an "Other Topic" and a "Special Topic"?
And if you add "Internet Software" to the Software Category, and "Moderators" to the private fora, then it won't be too crowded. I'd redo it, but it'll make the load of the thread slower the more we keep doing that.
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Ok, I like that one alot...
Admin feedback???
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keyser_soze, Other General Topics title fixed.
The "Special Topics" I think refers to the limited audience that is interested in each of these as opposed to general software subjects. People do argue about browsers sometimes, but seem to stick with one. Other internet-related software is seldom discussed at all. Perhaps Internet Software could go in the main Software category based on troubleshooting alone. Yet I seldom see posts on browser troubleshooting and the existing IE & N6 Fora get very few posts.
I believe the Mod Forum is in the general listing, so Mods can see when a new post has been made to that Forum.
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Uh Oh, we may have missed the boat a bit.
I looked at the Forums main page (something I seldom do) and the Mac Office 2001 ...
... is a hot Forum. I checked inside it, and there are plenty of recent posts. More current threads than Mac Modification or Applescript.
The Admins cannot kill a successful Forum, that is what the Fora are here for. So I had to edit Office 2001 back into the list.
The Mp3 Forum is still slow, so I was able to leave it in Multimedia.
OS X Server is slow also. Should it go in Alternate OSes? And keyser_soze has a point about the Internet software. Take it further. Could all the Internet Forums just be merged into 3rd Party?
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Clinically Insane
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I say leave the Internet forum.
Ok, with the Office forum, what if there were 'hot topic' forums - temporary.
When there was a big new software release, a forum could be created for it, to handle all the posts...
Then when it dies down, it goes. Temporary.
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Join Date: Apr 1999
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Well, while we're combining the PowerBook and iBook forums, lets combine the PowerMac and iMac forums! I mean, I dont own either an iMac or a PowerMac, why not combine them?
C'mon people, we cant combine the PowerBook and iBook forums.
Use your mind.
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