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Can't burn short Movies to a CD with iDVD?!
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Jan 3, 2003, 01:37 AM
 
Why is this? The whole movie is only about 400MB, and DVD players can certainly read CDs. Yet iDVD deliberately checks the media and won't let me use a CD-R!
Any workarounds, or something I'm missing about using iDVD or DVD Players?

Is it the menus and whatnot themselves, or just Apple wanting to sell more DVD-Rs?
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Jan 3, 2003, 04:25 AM
 
put a dvd-r into the slot while starting iDvd

when finishing your project, eject the dvd-r and put a cd-r into the slot... sometimes this is workaround....



Originally posted by Gametes:
Why is this? The whole movie is only about 400MB, and DVD players can certainly read CDs. Yet iDVD deliberately checks the media and won't let me use a CD-R!
Any workarounds, or something I'm missing about using iDVD or DVD Players?

Is it the menus and whatnot themselves, or just Apple wanting to sell more DVD-Rs?
     
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Jan 3, 2003, 08:48 AM
 
One problem is that the bitrate on some videos is so high the movie won't play back properly off a CD. These "miniDVDs" work, but only on some drives.

Another option is to burn to DVD-RW (assuming your SuperDrive isn't using one of the crippled DVD-RW incapble TiBook firmwares) using the iDVD trick, and then copy the VIDEO_TS folder over and make a miniDVD with Toast.
     
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Jan 3, 2003, 09:33 AM
 
Don't confuse this with actual knowledge but...

to burn to a CD you would really be making a "SVCD". A DVD player would expect to see the SVCD format - not DVD - if you insert a CD. (enough acronyms yet?)
An SVCD has a max bitrate of 2.5MB/sec and audio is mpeg 1 layer 2 only (I think) but otherwise the mpeg data is about the same as for a DVD. In fact these parameters are perfectly legal for a DVD too. If you can make iDVD save a mpeg file with these parameters then you could probably use toast to actually burn the SVCD.
     
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Jan 3, 2003, 09:38 AM
 
Originally posted by v8q:
Don't confuse this with actual knowledge but...

to burn to a CD you would really be making a "SVCD". A DVD player would expect to see the SVCD format - not DVD - if you insert a CD. (enough acronyms yet?)
An SVCD has a max bitrate of 2.5MB/sec and audio is mpeg 1 layer 2 only (I think) but otherwise the mpeg data is about the same as for a DVD. In fact these parameters are perfectly legal for a DVD too. If you can make iDVD save a mpeg file with these parameters then you could probably use toast to actually burn the SVCD.
I think he wants a "real" DVD burned on CD, which is called a miniDVD. This will NOT play on most standalone DVD players, but WILL play on PCs and Macs (and a few standlone DVD players out there).

The benefit is that the VIDEO_TS folder is a real DVD VIDEO_TS folder, but if the movie is only a few minutes long then it just happens to fit on a CD. No reencoding to SVCD is needed, and the quality is better. SVCD isn't a very useful format IMO anyway, since a lot of DVD players don't play them properly either.
     
 
   
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