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MikeD · Apr 23, 2003, 09:15 PM

I would like to use a part of Jurassic Park in my lesson but I can't seem to get one part (5min) into my comp as a quicktime movie. I tried going from DVD to minidv but I get a copy inhibit error. I tried the VHS tape to minidv and I get the same thing. I THEN managed to go from VHS through the TIVO and that worked. But going from the TIVO to miniDV, I got a copy inhibit (yet it works with everyday recordings). The reason I want to go to miniDV first is because I just firewire the material to iMovie and make the .mov file. Sigh... And now, I just learned how to make backkups of DVD's but that's useless for what I'm trying to do. Anyone with any ideas? I own both the VHS and DVD of the movie...

mike

dampeoples · Apr 23, 2003, 09:22 PM

Try Snapz if your DVD player is on your machine, and a seperate app (audio-hijack, maybe) to get the sound.

Uncle Skeleton · Apr 23, 2003, 10:52 PM

certain DVD decryptors that have the word "SEx" in them (try searching for that on google! actually I would be surprised if any decryptor didn't allow this option; except maybe MEncoder) allow you to rip by chapters, or even by objects (which are like 100 KB each), so if you can figure out what chapter your target scene is in, it won't take much time to decode the whole chapter to quicktime (DV/uncompressed/mpeg4) and trim the unwanted ends out with QTPro. Of course if you don't have a DVD-ROM drive of any kind you're stuck with that macrovision thing you described. You could give a shot to playing it on a really nice screen and actually filming the screen with your DV cam.......

tr · Apr 23, 2003, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by MikeD:
Sigh... And now, I just learned how to make backkups of DVD's but that's useless for what I'm trying to do. Anyone with any ideas? I own both the VHS and DVD of the movie...

mike

well, you could just rip the chapter where the clip is, and then demux, convert the video and audio, and then edit. but that is a lot for like 5 minutes.

have you tried going from VHS into tivo? like, instead of using the RCA's from the vcr, use the coax out. i think by doing this, you should be able to bypass the macrovision this way. the macrovision will still come through if you go vcr RCA outs-->tivo. i think...don't have a tivo or a miniDV camera, so i'm just sort of speculating

tr

Axo1ot1 · Apr 24, 2003, 03:34 AM

Download forty-two. Rip the whole DVD to a quicktime-friendly file. Use QT Pro to select the part of the movie you want to use and save it as a standalone file.

Mark E · Apr 24, 2003, 04:59 AM

look on google to see if there's any hacks for your DVD player, to turn off the macrovision (which, by the way, will even come through the coaxial cable). if you can turn it off you can just run it through your DV cam, which will save a hell of a lot of time.

-Mark

gatorparrots · Apr 24, 2003, 08:31 AM

Create disk images from DVD movies for longer playback
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...30403161152660

MikeD · Apr 24, 2003, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by tr:
well, you could just rip the chapter where the clip is, and then demux, convert the video and audio, and then edit. but that is a lot for like 5 minutes.

have you tried going from VHS into tivo? like, instead of using the RCA's from the vcr, use the coax out. i think by doing this, you should be able to bypass the macrovision this way. the macrovision will still come through if you go vcr RCA outs-->tivo. i think...don't have a tivo or a miniDV camera, so i'm just sort of speculating

tr

Yes, I've done VHS to tivo with coax and to no avail. Well, it worked to get it on the TIVO, but not onto the MiniDV Sony cam. It KNEW that it had macrovision for some reason. It can tape regular tv shows though on TIVO. If I only knew how to disable that "Copy Inhibit" mode...

tr · Apr 24, 2003, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Mark E:
look on google to see if there's any hacks for your DVD player, to turn off the macrovision (which, by the way, will even come through the coaxial cable). if you can turn it off you can just run it through your DV cam, which will save a hell of a lot of time.

-Mark

yeah, i wasn't really sure. i remember being able to bypass it by coax a LONG time ago, like in the 80's...i'm sure the technology has improved a bit.

i'd have to say with all these damn 'copy inhibit' messages,ripping your DVD is looking to be a lot easier.

tr

MikeD · Apr 24, 2003, 10:01 AM

Okay so far I got this far... I used OSEx to rip the specific chapter into a vob file.

I then used D Vision to make it into an mpeg. Problem is... For some reason, the audio track isn't playing. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong at this point. But I do have a quicktime mpeg1 file (I think) with a loss of audio.....

Any ideas?

Uncle Skeleton · Apr 24, 2003, 11:54 AM

you can probably use mAC3Dec to decode the VOB to aiff (audio) and add it to the video in QuickTime Pro. Problem is, since v5, QT has crippled itself when editing and mpegs are involved. I recommend you compress the VOB with an mpeg-4 codec like divx, 3ivx or Apple's mpeg-4, which you can do with ffmpeg (D-Vision I assume or ffmpegX) or DiVA

oh yeah, if mAC3Dec doesn't like the VOB, you can demux it with Extractor or bbDemux and convert the ac3 file directly (VOB is just m2v and ac3 muxed together), and then you can use bd4go which is like 4x faster than mAC3Dec anyway