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Why Hasn't Apple Made PVR Software?
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I got a chance to play with WinXP Media Center Edition and it was nice. I was even thinking of making a cheap Win box to act a a Tivo, but they don't selle WinXP MCE separately.
Why hasn't apple filled in the part of the digital hub? They used to make MacTVs and performas with TV tuners in them.
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i'd wager that the number of mac tv tuner users is low, since the old ati products are apparently abandoned, and the desire for eyetv/formac products hasn't been even perceptible in my group of friends. space is not at _that_ much of a premium to justify $200 on a gadget to get video of dubious quality.
furthermore, would it really be cheaper for you to build up a pc than to buy a tivo itself? i don't know how much they run, this is an honest question
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I certainly think that it would make an interesting software and hardware hack, maybe see if there's a way you could fit a G3/4 type mac into one of those projection TVs, If I recall, many of them DO have space under them, and many of them also have VGA input, it would be interesting to see also what someone could make of the software for that kind of thing, OSX certainly would be a good platform for video recording, and I know that cheap PC PCI cards you'd probably be able to make work.
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What makes you think there is a market big enough to justify such a move? Not being a smart ass, just asking?
I mean I know lots of geeks that would love to play with something like this, but they also already have Tivo's and/or EyeTV's.
It makes lots of sense to bridge PVR's and PC's, but stand alone units seem much more practical to me. By bridging I mean what I want to do is get programming off my Tivo and on to my Mac easily. I know all about the hacks out there to do it, and it's getting easier all the time. I wish there was a supported way to do it with Tivo, but I am not aware of one yet.
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I would like to see Apple work with PVR makers to ensure network compatability. Rendezvous? To stream my music, movies and pics to my tivo with a nice Apple interface? Bliss! Later on make it go the other way, sending stuff from Tivo to my Mac would be nice as well...
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Work: 2008 8x3.2 MacPro, 8800GT, 16GB ram, zillions of HDs. (video editing)
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Originally posted by CIA:
Rendezvous? To stream my music, movies and pics to my tivo...
I believe you can already do music and photos with Tivo Series2. You need to install a bit of software on the Mac, and they charge you an extra premium for the functionality.
Not quite seamless… but still, it's there.
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Join Date: Mar 2000
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furthermore, would it really be cheaper for you to build up a pc than to buy a tivo itself? i don't know how much they run, this is an honest question
Tivo with lifetime service runs around $500. For that you do not get the Home Media Option, and no ability to burn the files to DVD. I would definitely get one of the new EyeTV devices if I wasn't a PowerBook user (when I am traveling, thus requiring my shows recorded, my PowerBook is usually with me). Or if you already own a PC, adding a TV Tuner card, DVD Burner, and using something like Freevo would also be a cheaper alternative to Tivo.
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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Originally posted by jasong:
Tivo with lifetime service runs around $500. For that you do not get the Home Media Option, and no ability to burn the files to DVD. I would definitely get one of the new EyeTV devices if I wasn't a PowerBook user (when I am traveling, thus requiring my shows recorded, my PowerBook is usually with me). Or if you already own a PC, adding a TV Tuner card, DVD Burner, and using something like Freevo would also be a cheaper alternative to Tivo.
First of all, a 40-hour TiVo Series 2 is only $149 after rebate. So you're looking at $450 with lifetime, not $500.
A better deal is to get a Series 2 DirecTiVo for $99, and $4.95/month. At that rate, lifetime makes no sense, and you get 2 tuners in the box instead of one.
As to burning DVDs on a TiVo, you now can do that:
http://www.pioneerburner.com/
or if you want to burn it on your PC, look at TiVo2Go:
http://www.tivo.com/5.3.1.1.asp?article=196
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