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good dgicam and camcorder combo?
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Hi. I want to get a digital camera that is also a camcorder. I want to be able to upload whatever I do via usb or firewire. I want it to be small enough for me to carry around in a bag/purse. I want it to take good quality pics and video and I want to be able to edit them. My budget is about 300 bucks  so that may limit me a bit, but we'll see.
Any suggestions?
Btw, I would use it MOSTLY as a camera, but I would like the option of camcorder as well because I plan on putting together a year long project (documenting of my time in Europe) and editing it--I think some video segment swould be a good touch(along with music and voice overs, etc...you get the idea....this would be my first project of anything like this)
Thanks.
P.S> Will likely stick it on a DVD and give it to friends, family, faculty, and grad school adcoms 
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Can't be done for $300 as far as I know. You'll either get lousy stills or lousy video or both. Even the most expensive camcorders take only mediocre stills.
If the stills are more important to you, I'd spend $200-300 on a good still camera and an extra memory card and battery, then see if you can borrow or rent a separate camcorder.
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can't be done.
ALL videocams have lousy still pics, compared to still-cams.
you want a cheap combination?
i do use (and LOVE!) my sony U10 - YES, "just" 1 Mio pixels, but quality is great, long power, very low latency, very fast on, etc.pp. this is really a small camera, i have it allways in some pocket.. the quality is enough for usage in videos; have a look at epay, there are U10,U20 and U30 models on the market..
videocam: sony tv14 (european model no); no effects, even no firewire in (costs etxra over here in germany for some spooky tax reason); very good picture quality (zeiss lenses), very good power management (stamina), easy to use - works great with all apple apps (iMovie, FCE); final movies i do burn as dvd.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HazelGirl:
[B]Hi. I want to get a digital camera that is also a camcorder. I want to be able to upload whatever I do via usb or firewire. I want it to be small enough for me to carry around in a bag/purse. I want it to take good quality pics and video and I want to be able to edit them. My budget is about 300 bucks  so that may limit me a bit, but we'll see.
The newer (latest) crop of digicams offers VGA reolution (640 x 480) video clips at 30fps which plays well on tv sets. But you will end up in gigantic file sizes which requires large capacity flash memory cards, at least a 256MB.
But 300 bucks will only either buys you a decent digicam or 8mm video camcorder.
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I have a canon MV630i camcorder (cost £350) which can also do stills. The stills are 1024x768 and are acceptable for things like web use.
I also have a canon ixus. It does video of max 30 seconds. The video quality's not bad (VHS quality IMO - not as good as DVD though).
As everyone's mentioned, it's a compromise.
Amorya
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What the nerd community most often fail to realize is that all features aren't equal. A well implemented and well integrated feature in a convenient interface is worth way more than the same feature implemented crappy, or accessed through a annoying interface.
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