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Removing vocal from ripped CD track
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Aug 4, 2004, 04:38 AM
 
Hi.

I need to remove the vocal from a ripped CD track so it's just the music that is left with no vocals or anything. What software is needed to do this. Would QT Pro be enough or do I need something more.

Any suggestions on how to do this.

Thanks.
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Aug 4, 2004, 06:39 AM
 
1) This cannot be done.

2) You can achieve a similar effect by separating the left and the right channels and inverting the waveform of one of them. This will cancel anything smack in the middle of the stereo field, ideally the lead vocals, but usually including bass and kick drum and much else.
The more advanced method of doing this is to invert only the frequency range containing the vocals. You make three copies of the stereo track and use an EQ/filter to have each cover a different frequency-range (by cutting everything else away): the first with everything removed above around 2kHz or so (depending on the voice - deep, throaty, male, female, etc.; this will take experimenting), the second - the voice band - with everything removed below 2kHz (wherever the first one ends) and above about 6-8kHz (again depending upon the voice), and the third with everything removed below 6-8kHz (whatever the cutoff for the second one was).

Take the voice band (the second one) and invert the phase of one channel.

This technique will still sound like crap, and guitar solos may disappear along with the vocals, but it will be better than the other method. It will also require some sort of multi-track audio software.


Or, you could spring a couple of dollars for a used hi-fi amp with karaoke function.

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Aug 4, 2004, 06:43 AM
 
Originally posted by thefunkymunky:
Hi.

I need to remove the vocal from a ripped CD track so it's just the music that is left with no vocals or anything. What software is needed to do this. Would QT Pro be enough or do I need something more.

Any suggestions on how to do this.

Thanks.
what format is the track in?
     
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Aug 4, 2004, 07:05 AM
 
Originally posted by storer:
what format is the track in?
What's the best format? MP3, AAC, WAVE.

I thought this could be done fairly easily. I'm obviously wrong.

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Aug 6, 2004, 12:51 AM
 
no its really impossible. Once a song is recorded using multiple tracks, all of those tracks are "bounced" together into 2 tracks (L&R stereo). Nothing can be changed alone once in that form. Only the master "tape" an do this.

Wouldnt it be nice if you could control things like this! I'd love to replace a guitar solo or vocal part with another instrument. It would sure save time making music minus one things!
     
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Aug 6, 2004, 01:30 AM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
1) This cannot be done.

2) You can achieve a similar effect by separating the left and the right channels and inverting the waveform of one of them. This will cancel anything smack in the middle of the stereo field, ideally the lead vocals, but usually including bass and kick drum and much else.
The more advanced method of doing this is to invert only the frequency range containing the vocals. You make three copies of the stereo track and use an EQ/filter to have each cover a different frequency-range (by cutting everything else away): the first with everything removed above around 2kHz or so (depending on the voice - deep, throaty, male, female, etc.; this will take experimenting), the second - the voice band - with everything removed below 2kHz (wherever the first one ends) and above about 6-8kHz (again depending upon the voice), and the third with everything removed below 6-8kHz (whatever the cutoff for the second one was).

Take the voice band (the second one) and invert the phase of one channel.

This technique will still sound like crap, and guitar solos may disappear along with the vocals, but it will be better than the other method. It will also require some sort of multi-track audio software.


Or, you could spring a couple of dollars for a used hi-fi amp with karaoke function.

-s*
this is one of the best, profund, professional answers to a question on this forum for years! chapeau!!
     
 
   
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