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Jan 27, 2006, 05:35 AM
 


i just got final cut pro for my new powermac.

i have figured out how to capture an entire tape, which i have now done.

in mainstream/amatuer programs i used to use, you could get the computer to automatiaclly detect and seperate each scene for you.

I have established thus far that this is usually done after capture in fcp, but how??

im not farmiliar with all this new stuff.

help plzzz
     
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Jan 27, 2006, 09:18 AM
 
I do not believe there is a setting in FCP to do this, but I could be wrong. Ideally, you would not capture an entire tape, but use a combination of Logging and Batch Capture.

I believe that you now have two options.

1) Recapture, setting in and out points, logging each and then Batch Capture and walk away. This is assuming you have a consistent, break-free timecode, as FCP likes to have a little room at the beginning and end of each clip.

2) Start cutting your big, gigantic file in a timeline. I think you can right-click each of the new edits and choose "make independent clip" or something like that. Just make sure you do some reading on this. I don't really ever do this, so I could be totally wrong.


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Jan 27, 2006, 12:27 PM
 
What you want is called DV Start/Stop Detection. It creates markers at date/time breaks in the captured DV clip. You can then create subclips from there.

Look at the manual:Vol 1, page 273.
     
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Jan 27, 2006, 01:22 PM
 
Maybe you should stick to iMovie; I think FCP might be a bit much for an amateur.

Not flaming; just advice.

     
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Jan 27, 2006, 01:49 PM
 
You should use the Batch Capture feature to log the Ins/Outs for each clip, then save the batch list, run it, and go relax while the computer does all the work. This way you only capture your good takes and not useless stuff.
(capturing an entire tape in one chunk is sorta wasteful in so many ways, unless you actually need all of it - like duping a tape fer example)
     
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Jan 27, 2006, 01:59 PM
 
I never even knew this was a feature. Thanks.
     
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Jan 28, 2006, 12:35 AM
 
with all that was said above you can simply drag your clip to the Viewer window and set In and Out points ( In = "I" key Out = "O" key) once you have in and out set drag the clip from the viewr to the time line. now set a new in and out in the viewer again and you can then drag that new clip to the timeline and continue to piece together your edit.

All being said those guys were right before that if you capture many smaller clips editing will be much easier
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Jan 28, 2006, 03:03 AM
 
i edit event video and i go through the pains of having to sync up multiple tapes...which then turn into multiple clips because the user of the camera frequently turned off the camera.
i played with all solutions possible and i found the DV Start/Stop feature the best.
Its under the "Mark" menu...
     
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Jan 28, 2006, 04:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by iomatic
Maybe you should stick to iMovie; I think FCP might be a bit much for an amateur.

Not flaming; just advice.

If we all did that, there wouldn't be any professionals.
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Jan 28, 2006, 02:54 PM
 
Hehe.

Well, being a pro doesn't necessarily mean moving up from a software package, but getting training in all the aspects of the profession first, and using the pro tools to accomplish the product created by that training. In most circumstances.

Anyway, good job on the responses; FCP is a bit much if you're just capturing kids' birthdays and the like. It's much easier for the amateur to utilize iMovie. Heck, I use it too sometimes!

     
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Jan 28, 2006, 03:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by iomatic
Hehe.

Well, being a pro doesn't necessarily mean moving up from a software package, but getting training in all the aspects of the profession first, and using the pro tools to accomplish the product created by that training. In most circumstances.

Anyway, good job on the responses; FCP is a bit much if you're just capturing kids' birthdays and the like. It's much easier for the amateur to utilize iMovie. Heck, I use it too sometimes!

True. Perhaps it's more me, but I find that I learned best by diving into FCP and learning as I went along. Simply speaking, one has to be willing to take off the kid gloves at some point. Sometimes it means training, and sometimes it means just going at it. I disagree that becoming trained in the whole before becoming professional is necessary. Being proficient is sufficient in my eyes.

I agree that iMovie is great for any home movie, even some basic professional stuff. If I want to do something quick, and make it look nice, iMovie is a beautiful solution.
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Jan 28, 2006, 04:36 PM
 
No, no... I wasn't saying you have to get training. It's just a generality.

I said, "In most circumstances."

It's cool; working with new tools is a good thing, in conclusion. Was just offering up that iMovie can cover most people's (non-pros) needs. That is all. Enjoy.
     
 
   
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