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Sony's new MicroMV Camcorder
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Jan 17, 2002, 01:19 PM
 
I read that their new camcorders (Sony's MicroMV Camcorders)record to MPEG2. Will this be advantage to making iMovies on my Mac? For example will it take less time to convert over etc..?
     
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Jan 17, 2002, 02:05 PM
 
Quicktime currently don't support Mpeg2 editing.

FCP and iMovie uses quicktime as the mediacomponent.

So currently you won't be able to use the MicroMV, other than converting it into DV.
     
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Jan 17, 2002, 02:09 PM
 
Something about Sony devices with proprietary media scares me...
     
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Jan 17, 2002, 02:16 PM
 
So there would be no way to edit the footage. I guess Sony really loves PC's. NOt that I would do this but could you actually upload the file from the camcorder to the Mac and burn it directly to DVD?
     
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Jan 17, 2002, 04:22 PM
 
Hi ive been looking at sony's pc110($1100.00 US
) or pc120, there both DV and they work with macs; as for sony loving the pc side of computing you have to remember that sony makes there own pc's so naturally they'ed support the pc platform before us talented mac users.


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Feb 13, 2002, 08:53 AM
 
Will it be possible to convert MPEG 2 when QT 6 comes out? It that is true then these cameras would work with my mac right???
     
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Mar 3, 2002, 11:53 PM
 
Has anyone heard anything about if and when we get QT6, if it will be able to work with the the new Sony microMV camcorders. Thanks.
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Mar 4, 2002, 05:19 PM
 
Having read reviews of the Sony IP7 camcorder, the reviewer even had trouble getting it to work with his Windows PC.
Software is supplied to handle the MPEG2 import, which he couldn't get to work, so had to use the analogue output to a converter box!

The miniscule size makes the buttons that bit harder to press as well.
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Mar 4, 2002, 06:55 PM
 
Will it be possible to convert MPEG 2 when QT 6 comes out? It that is true then these cameras would work with my mac right???
Not necessarily. Although the camera has firewire (or i.Link), apps such as iMovie can only read the DV protocol via firewire. You'd need an app with support for MPEG2 via firewire to capture footage from the camera digitally. So far I think the only app which does this is Sony's, and it's PC only. Maybe if the MicroMV's take off, support would get added to iMovie...

(Of course you could capture via analogue, but then you get into the whole compression/degradation thing which negates the point of being digital in the first place...)

Better off getting a cheap DV cam IMO - there's a lot to be said for compatibility

wulf
     
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Mar 4, 2002, 09:22 PM
 
Once QT6 is released, this won't be an issue any more. It offeres native MPEG2 so there won't be any encoding/decoding from the Sony...
     
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Mar 4, 2002, 09:43 PM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
<STRONG>Once QT6 is released, this won't be an issue any more. It offeres native MPEG2 so there won't be any encoding/decoding from the Sony...</STRONG>
Sweet!! That was the answer I was looking for.
     
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Mar 5, 2002, 12:07 AM
 
Once QT6 is released, this won't be an issue any more. It offeres native MPEG2 so there won't be any encoding/decoding from the Sony...

Are you certain about this? Is it currently possible to transfer video via Firewire through QT5? I've never tried it myself. What makes you so sure you will be able to transfer MicroMV footage through the MPEG2 encoder when QT6 is introduced?
     
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Mar 6, 2002, 12:02 AM
 
Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know of my experiences with this. I bought a Sony DCR-IP5 (from an undisclosed Caribbean island) just last week, knowing full well I would be facing certain trouble getting this to work with my Mac. I was right.

No luck with iMovie, Final Cut Pro, Premiere. No luck with QT, either. I do have an XP box at work (ugh) and it will work through that. I then have to save the output as QT for Windows, burn the video to CD, bring it home to my G4 to convert it to DV Stream (using QT Pro).

Needless to say, this SUCKS. As a long, long time advocate of both Sony and Apple, I have to say how surprised I am that these two entities are so far apart on this one.

I hope you all are right about QT6, because I don't think I'll see a shareware app for this anytime soon.

Please, please - if anyone has firm info on this, share with us.

Thanks,
-Bobby
www.woodwardmediagroup.com/abby
     
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Feb 19, 2003, 05:56 PM
 
MicroMV still not a supported format within firewire on macs.

I have used a sony DV converter to get around this. iMovie3 doesn't seem to recognize the converter..yet.
     
 
   
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