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Mpeg2 on CD-R playable in DVD Player ?
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Jul 26, 2001, 02:11 AM
 
Hi all,

I was wondering if it's possible to put a short movie in Mpeg2 format on a regular cd-r an play it as a DVD movie in regular DVD players ? If so what is the usual datarate so I know how many minutes my edits can be?

This would mean that most of my edited shots could be send to family to enjoy on their DVD player at home at high quality !

-/-/-enri
     
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Jul 26, 2001, 06:15 AM
 
In general MOST off shelf consumer DVD models will not yet play MPEG2, VCD, SVCD, miniDVD formats. This should and is slowly changing as the manufacturers learn the consumer really wants these capabilities.

I have a DVD player called a Sampo 620 that I picked up for $130 specifically because it can play all the above formats plus MP3 audio. Another nice feature was that it has a standard PC type DVD-ROM drive in it. I found that the original DVD-ROM that came in it did not play CD-R media fast enough for very good video playback so I opened it up and replaced it with a 6x DVD-ROM I had laying around from a pull out of my G4 (AGP).

In terms of playback rate - the speed of the DVD-ROM CDR playback rate usually determines the acceptable datarate for the video. At 6x I have found datarate somewhere around 4000-5000 works for me.

Hope this helps.
     
jac
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Jul 27, 2001, 04:24 AM
 
In fact, most DVD players play VCDs and SVCDs, but not miniDVDs. The problem is, however, that there is currently no Mac software to make SVCDs (mpeg2); you need VPC or an actual PC. Check out VCDhelp.com for tons of information.
If you want to make VCDs (and can settle for mpeg1) Toast 5 is your best bet. It will almost certainly be playable on most DVD players.

[ 07-27-2001: Message edited by: jac ]
     
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Jul 27, 2001, 05:35 AM
 
Nice

Great tip this VCDHelp.com

Tanks all,

-/-/-enri
     
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Jul 27, 2001, 09:42 AM
 
Some players won't read CD-R media, but almost all of them should be able to read CD-RW.

With that in mind, it will be more expensive if you want to send out a dozen CD-RWs. At least a bit more than if you could simply use CD-Rs.

If you want to send some stuff to your relatives, I suggest doing a computer CD-ROM with audio tracks. This would play audio in a normal CD-player, and then have your MPG files for movies if they put it in the computer. I think home computers are *at least* as common as DVD players (and some people only have DVD drives in their computers and no seperate players).

In time consumer players will catch up, but for now I'd stick with audio and computer.
     
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Jul 27, 2001, 05:47 PM
 
VCDHelp.com has a DVD player compatibility database. It will even tell you what color of CDR or CDRW to buy for your DVD player. Check it out at DVD Compatibility. You can search for features like DVDR or MP3 compatibility. I've used that list to help several friends choose new DVD players and it was very helpful.

Oh, and by the way, MPEG-2 files with DVD layouts on a CD is called "miniDVD" and MPEG-2 files with VCD layouts on a CD is called "SVCD" or "Super VCD".

-Doug

[ 07-27-2001: Message edited by: GreenMnM ]
     
 
   
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