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Sorenson Video 3 vs 3ivx vs OpenDivx
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Aug 8, 2001, 04:18 AM
 
I encoded a short movie using all three codecs with an resolution of 720*400 and 25fps.

I must say, that Sorenson Video 3 was the most impressive of all. With 50 % you get a quality which comes close to DVD except for black surfaces, maybe. The movie still looks great at full screen size. 3ivx and OpenDivx didn't do a very great job on my Pismo 500. I have the impression, that both still ned development.

With Sorenson at half the screen resolution you come down to approx. 3.2 MByte per min (720: 8.5 MByte per min), what is as low as 3ivx or DivX. But I don't care about the additional necessary drive space...
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Aug 8, 2001, 01:10 PM
 
Could you please let us know your settings at 720 and half screen resolution?
     
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Originally posted by Felix:
<STRONG>I encoded a short movie using all three codecs with an resolution of 720*400 and 25fps.

I must say, that Sorenson Video 3 was the most impressive of all. With 50 % you get a quality which comes close to DVD except for black surfaces, maybe. The movie still looks great at full screen size. 3ivx and OpenDivx didn't do a very great job on my Pismo 500. I have the impression, that both still ned development.

With Sorenson at half the screen resolution you come down to approx. 3.2 MByte per min (720: 8.5 MByte per min), what is as low as 3ivx or DivX. But I don't care about the additional necessary drive space...</STRONG>
Assuming you have the SV3 dev edition and Media Cleaner, have you
been able to use the 2-pass VBR? I've been getting great results without it, but I was wondering why it wasn't selectable in Cleaner.

3IVX isn't too bad. The $10 personal edition with artifact reduction is a steal for those who need a good low bit rate codec, but can't budget SV3.
     
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Aug 9, 2001, 02:22 AM
 
Settings of Sorenson Video 3 at both resolutions:

50 %, 25 fps, key frame none, no bit rate restrictions - no other settings available, I use the codec which comes with QT 5.0.2. The eoncoding was done with MacMPEG2Decoder, latest version.

I also tried 75 % in quality, but the improvement (not very significant and framdrops when there is lotta movement) is not worth the data increase to 25 MByte per min.

3ivX: I use the free codec, Delta 3.5, quality set to 52 %. The quality was comparable to SV3 with half screen resolution expanded to desktop size. However in this case the file size is almost the same. Besides, 3ivX behaves a little bit strange in playback in QT on a Pismo 500, especially in the beginning. It is not as bad as it used to be with earlier versions (I have posted about this before), but SV3 behaves absolutely flawless.
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Aug 9, 2001, 06:31 AM
 
was SV3 encoding slower or faster than 3ivx? and by how much

Thanks,
Vasu
     
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Aug 9, 2001, 10:32 AM
 
Encoding time:

With the lower resolution definitely not. However I did not take times, as I was concentrating on the quality. But I will measure as soon as I find time to.
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