[badtz]

Was wondering if there was a program like EAC for the mac? [doing multiple passes to ensure that the audio was ripped near 100%, and tells you percentage-wise if it ripped perfectly]........

if not......

has anyone used EAC in Virtual PC? how does it run/work?

thanks!

[jcarr]

Perhaps this is a little naive of me, but I was not aware that reading CD audio files would result in anything less than a 100% duplicate.

Why would there be data loss? It's a digital copy. Digital source, digital result. There should not be any loss until the encoding & compression starts.

Many drives cannot do perfect digital audio extraction without some extra help. Remember that CDs have no real error correction. Some of the older 4X CD-RW drives did absolutely terrible DAE, even with extra EAC-like software (whereas current 24X CD-RW drives do excellent DAE without extra software). In fact, back in the old days, it was uncommon to have absolutely perfect DAE without fiddling with lots of software settings. Only rare drives (like some of the Plextors and my Panasonic CF-584B) would do so.

EAC ensures the data stream is accurate, and if I remember correctly for the PC version, does so with a speed hit, especially with crappier drives.

That said, a relatively good drive that does DAE at full speed without software like EAC may produce with rare errors, but the sound quality will still be "perfect" with the rare errors completely inaudible. Thus, I have let my ears do the judging. With my iBook all my sound files sound great, and so I haven't bothered looking for a program like EAC.

Badtz, I'd suggest instead just buying a drive that is known to do excellent DAE. It ends up costing the same as buying 3rd party software.

[badtz]

even with a good dae cd-r/rw/rom that wouldn't ensure a perfect digital copy. with EAC, after the rip, it'll tell you if anything is wrong & give you a percentage of how well that song/cd ripped. in secure mode, it can do multiple passes to ensure it's a 100% rip.

i know it's kinda picky <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

any way to compile cd paranoia to os x?

[Eug]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Badtz:
<strong>even with a good dae cd-r/rw/rom that wouldn't ensure a perfect digital copy. with EAC, after the rip, it'll tell you if anything is wrong & give you a percentage of how well that song/cd ripped. in secure mode, it can do multiple passes to ensure it's a 100% rip.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Actually with a good DAE drive EAC is unnecessary. There are certain drives that NEVER vary from rip to rip, unless there is something wrong with the disc. Ie. Do 20 rips in a row of the same track and they will be 100% identical every time. My Matsushiba CR-584B was one of them. Alas, it's only 12-13X max, and I prefer to use my Mac anyway.

<small>[ 06-07-2002, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: Eug ]</small>

[badtz]

The auditory might be "identical" but are each FILE 100% identical?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Badtz:
<strong>The auditory might be "identical" but are each FILE 100% identical?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Yes, if you compare the data stream it is identical. I've done rips 5X in a row with that drive. 100% identical every time.

So, like I said, if you get the right drive, EAC is unnecessary.