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hadocon · Jun 8, 2002, 08:14 PM

I need to buy another drive. External drives do not sleep when I put my system to sleep, this bothers me enough to want an internal drive.

Anyways... I was wondering if 120GB is still the largest money can buy - considering that I need at least 7200rpm (for DV capture) and an ATA/100 interface.

I have seen a few 160GB drives but they are all 5400rpm.

does anyone know anything about this?

Jbos · Jun 8, 2002, 08:23 PM

Yes, I believe 120 GB is still the largest.

Corys · Jun 10, 2002, 12:42 PM

I thought when you got into the 120-160 gig drives that a 5400 RPM drive performance wise was equal to a smaller 7200 RPM drive due to the smaller block size, drive doesn't need to spin as faster to read/write the same amount of data.
could be wrong, but that was my understanding of it.
anyone have some insight?

memento · Jun 11, 2002, 09:49 AM

just a note. Although this may depend on your computer, you should not NEED 7200 rpm and ATA/100 for DV capture. I've done plenty of DV capture in my B&W G3/300 with 5400rpm and the stock ata33. Anything beyond that is icing. DV is like 3Mb/sec and real-world 5400rpm ata33 is like 10MB/sec (80Mb/sec). Even if DV is 3MB/sec you're still clear.

hadocon · Jun 11, 2002, 11:13 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by memento:
just a note. Although this may depend on your computer, you should not NEED 7200 rpm and ATA/100 for DV capture. I've done plenty of DV capture in my B&W G3/300 with 5400rpm and the stock ata33. Anything beyond that is icing. DV is like 3Mb/sec and real-world 5400rpm ata33 is like 10MB/sec (80Mb/sec). Even if DV is 3MB/sec you're still clear.<hr /></blockquote>This is true. I have experience with 5400rpm drives and I find them to be lacking for my type of work. One must realize that after I capture the video I am going to want to edit it. That means that I am going to be accessing multiple video-streams and audio streams off the disk at the same time (layering video for example). For this it is best to have a faster HD, if not for the higher throughput then for the faster seek times...

memento · Jun 13, 2002, 09:31 AM

that makes perfect sense. The largest 7200rpm I've seen is 120GB. Since a 160GB 7200rpm drive will probably be available as an IDE before it gets put into a FW case and sold as a FW hard drive, you can always get the IDE and a FW case (make sure it has the Oxford 911 bridge) and mount it yourself.

hadocon · Jun 13, 2002, 10:27 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by memento:
that makes perfect sense. The largest 7200rpm I've seen is 120GB. Since a 160GB 7200rpm drive will probably be available as an IDE before it gets put into a FW case and sold as a FW hard drive, you can always get the IDE and a FW case (make sure it has the Oxford 911 bridge) and mount it yourself.<hr /></blockquote>...Well that sounds like a good idea for those that don't mind having an external drive, but my original post was looking for the largest 7200rpm internal HD.

Is there any way I could make this an internal version?

tr · Jun 13, 2002, 11:19 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by hadocon:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by memento:
that makes perfect sense. The largest 7200rpm I've seen is 120GB. Since a 160GB 7200rpm drive will probably be available as an IDE before it gets put into a FW case and sold as a FW hard drive, you can always get the IDE and a FW case (make sure it has the Oxford 911 bridge) and mount it yourself.<hr /></blockquote>...Well that sounds like a good idea for those that don't mind having an external drive, but my original post was looking for the largest 7200rpm internal HD.

Is there any way I could make this an internal version?<hr /></blockquote>ummm..you want to make the above external firewire drive into an internal?

just don't put it in the firewire case...

firewire cases just convert normal IDE drives into firewire interface drives via an IDE-firewire bridge board. all full-sized firewire drives you see out there are just normal IDE drives inside cases.

tr

[ 06-13-2002, 11:22 AM: Message edited by: tr ]

memento · Jun 13, 2002, 12:09 PM

yeah. my mistake. I've been looking at external FW hd's for myself so I just wasn't thinking. Still, 120GB is the largest available now. If you can wait, I'm sure 160GB will go 7200rpm soon.