[qnc]

I have pismo 400/192 and want to start using my pismos movie capabilities

which camcorder do I buy

I want to digital edit but also have tape facility small and light weight

etc..

[jeffrone]

The decision on what camcorder to buy should be influenced on what you will use it for and the conditions you will use it in. Also what program are you using to edit with?? Some solid cameras are Sony's TRV 120 900 VX1000 and VX2000, Canons worth looking at are the XL1 Gl1 Optura and Elura. If your looking for Pro models consider DVCAM or DVPRO format instead of Mini DV.

jeff

[qnc]

Thanks I want to be fairly flexible. I would like something that can work well in low light like as would be found in a nightclub. I want to be able to digital edit like I said before but also transfere to VHS tape for my friends who don't have computers etc...

Does a digital 8 mean I can do this this i.e. tape and digital capabilities

What is Hi8 tape is this worth the extra £100 pounds I have seen for this type of camera?

also I will use iMovie(1) for editing simple stuff but good for entry level I have heard

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definitely you're going to want to go with something that has firewire onboard, b/c it's expensive to purchase an analog-to-firwire board. what's your budget lke? do you have a cap? if i had the money, i'd go with a higher end (2000 dollars american +) camera, but i'd be a begger riding a horse, if that were the case. I'm currently using a JVC GR-DVL305, it's fine for some purposes, but it doesn't do chroma-key very well, so some of my sci-fi shots are a little screwy, shop around, find something that fits your budget, and try to utilize any discounts you can, like academic.

[qnc]

I don't know if they will work with low level light and are connectable to my pismo

there was some info about pismo/os9 not being able to handle all cameras. is this true?

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[jwardell]

Unfortunately most cameras will not work in very low light without going professional. This is the LUX rating that you should find on every video camera's specs...the lower the better. Sony's "0 LUX" means it can work in no light with its built-in infrared nightshot light, but I don't think that's what you want (look a their standard lux ratings). Most consumer cameras also get very grainy in dark conditions.

[qnc]

is this the one you are talking about?



SONY DCR-TRV120

I looks cute but is it going to give me good low level light perfomance e.g. nightclubs

every thing else I think it can handle

like I said above I have a small budget but then I just want to have some fun making films etc... I don't think I'll be entering windrush!!!

[qnc]

SONY DCR-TRV130

1 lux minimium compared to it more expensive brothers at 4 lux
http://www.unbeatable.com/products/c.../dcrtrv130.asp

how good is 1 lux what do pro cameras get down to?

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[jwardell]

1 lux is definately the best you'll get for consumer!

[qnc]

Thanks for the info guys I've been searching web and shops

these sales assistance will tell you 0.1 lux then you check sony and a few other sites and the same camera is 7lux minimium. Anything for a sale I guess

We've talked alot about Sony products what about JVC and the others do they have anything that compares to the might Sony also what about DV cameras compared to 8mm. Again the camera expert a PC user recons that the quality is better but is it worth the extra £500 for the cameras and doulbe the price for the tapes?

Where do you learn the basics of editing. Do you lnow any good sites to check out?

[doug young]

I don't know if anyone already mentioned it in this thread, but you should be sure that you choose a camera with DV in/out.

Many European cameras are castrated and can only export to the computer, but can't import back to tape unless you apply a fix that will void your guarantee.


My personal favourite is the Canon XL1, Primarily for its interchangable lenses. WOW A canon 28-300 camera lens becomes something like a 150-1800 camcorder lens with super high quality because it is only using the prime area of the lens.
http://www.canon-europa.com/cgi-bin/parser.pl?page=products&product=455&prod type=29&subprodtype=34


If you can afford it. BUY IT!
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[osiris]

You can probably get a Sony VX1000 for a deal (under $2k) - it has a standard mount that lets you use tons of pro filters, including some nice lenses. I just shot a documentary on this and the only complaint is that the low-light abilities are a little lacking, A small light kit made everything perfect & battery life is also amazing + it is very light & tough and unobtrusive. Add an XLR connector and you can also use pro mics on a stereo channel or two mics in mono with seperation. The newer VX2000 has about 20 more lines of resolution, a built-in XLR connector and a built-in view finder that is also worth a look (though over $2k)

just my two cents, so good luck!

[zoopsia215]

Here are a couple of links as I would take too long to give the pros and cons, lol
http://www.cnet.com/electronics/0-14...22.dir.1429201

http://equip.zdnet.com/digitalimaging/index.html

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[doug young]

I haven't checked it out recently, but the following used to be a good site

http://www.steves-digicams.com http://www.steves-digicams.com/digvideo.html

[zigzag]

There is a trade-off between light weight/compactness and low-light capability because of lens size, etc. You can't have everything. I have a Canon Elura2 and love it because it fits in a jacket pocket. Excellent image quality in good light, but grainy in low light, as any consumer camera is likely to be.

I'd recommend a mini-DV model with Firewire and analog ports if you can afford it. That way, all you need is the camera to edit and store digital videos and convert to and from analog. Just plug it into your Mac, no need to pay for a converter.

Go to apple.com > software > iMovie > Making Movies for a list of compatible cameras.

[qnc]

cool getting there

so do you have your movies on the web then? Idisk etc...

would love to see some of what you guys are upto

[qnc]

I've looked at some
http://www.canon-europa.com/products/products.html

at £800 1.5 minimium lux and DV in and out

can anyone do better?


Quincy