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Roxio Toast 5.0/Problems
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Jun 17, 2001, 04:24 PM
 
Program has been working perfectly for 2 months and now for some reason I cant drag sound files in to it or rearrange tracks. I have a G3 upgraded to G4 running OS 9.1. I tried re Installing software. It didnt help.
     
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Jun 18, 2001, 07:16 AM
 
Delete the "Adaptec Toast Prefs" file from the Preferences folder, which resides in the System Folder.

[ 06-18-2001: Message edited by: Cipher13 ]
     
bluelou  (op)
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Jun 18, 2001, 09:03 AM
 
I just tried trashing the Toast Prefs and restarted. The same problem still happening.
     
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Jun 18, 2001, 09:05 PM
 
Well, strangely enough I think that Toast Titanium is slower than Toast 4.12 that came with my drive. I tried to get my QPS drive to do a burn at 12X after upgrading to Titanium 5, and it only would do 6X speed. Strangely enough I called tech support and they told me that my drive needed to have the firmware updated...well...that's another story...no firewire based firmware updater for the plextor based QPS drive. Don't bash QPS. Yamaha doesn't have a firewire based updater in Mac software either for the firmware in their drives.

Speaking of Yamaha I just tried their drive tonight. A flashy external 16/10/40 CDR/CDRW model. It burned slower than the QPS with Toast Titanium. This is with a clean system folder, etc. under 9.1 system software.

Toast Titanium may have it's wonderful capabilities, but speed is far from the list of capabilities. At 6X speed to make a disc I should have never bought a firewire external drive. Or then again, maybe I should have forgotten about Toast Titanium.

I am curious about the experiences of other users. Had I not tried out 2 different drives, and had similar results I would scratch my head. How can these 2 wonderful drives work so well with Toast OEM version 4.1.2 and then work so slowly with Toast Titanium. I think Roxio should fess up to the problem.
Sincererly,
Bill
     
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Jun 19, 2001, 11:59 AM
 
Bill,
How fast is your computer? My QPS 16x10x40 works just fine at 12x write (didn't buy 16x cd's, oops!) under 4.1.2 OEM and Toast Titanium. In fact, I find titanium much better because of the background writes, which work just fine. I have a beige G3 333MHz with a firewire PCI card, so I'm not sure if the drive was even meant for a computer made circa August '97.
     
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Jun 19, 2001, 03:17 PM
 
Originally posted by Euphrates:
<STRONG>Bill,
How fast is your computer? My QPS 16x10x40 works just fine at 12x write (didn't buy 16x cd's, oops!) under 4.1.2 OEM and Toast Titanium. In fact, I find titanium much better because of the background writes, which work just fine. I have a beige G3 333MHz with a firewire PCI card, so I'm not sure if the drive was even meant for a computer made circa August '97.</STRONG>
I am using a PB G3/400 Pismo. It is really strange. No problems with Toast 4.12, but with Toast Titanium either on 9.04 or 9.1 it is the same result. I am at a loss to figure it out.
     
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Jun 19, 2001, 03:57 PM
 
Originally posted by Euphrates:
<STRONG>My QPS 16x10x40 works just fine at 12x write (didn't buy 16x cd's, oops!) under 4.1.2 OEM and Toast Titanium.</STRONG>
I think there's part of your answer, Toast 5 somehow magically sees what speed my blank CDs are rated and will not allow me to burn any faster. What brand and rating are your blank CDs, Bill? If I don't pay the extra money to buy 12X or better bank CDRs, I can't burn any faster than 4X on my Sony that is capable of 12X. It will burn 12X with the correct CDs.

bluelou, have you been updating your system with the Software Update Control Panel? Did you install Carbonlib 1.3.1? You may need to go back to 1.2.5. Some other people reported that Drag-N-Drop in general stopped working after the update. Both can bedownloaded by searching the TIL at Apple for "carbonlib".

-Doug

[ 06-19-2001: Message edited by: GreenMnM ]
     
<Bill>
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Jun 19, 2001, 05:08 PM
 
I am using 12X rated discs. The funny thing is regardless of system used 9.04, or 9.1 on clean installs, it still happens. The other thing is that with the same discs, and the same drives, and the same powerbook, the OEM version 4.1.2 works like a champ in burning at 12X speed. There is something weird going on with the Toast 5 software, at least in my opinion. I just got off the phone with someone from Roxio support who asked me about the firmware in the drive. The first drive is a QUE Fire Drive (12-10-32) and it has firmware version 1.02. There is no updater available for the Mac using a firewire interface. According to the people at Plextor they don't support the QUE drives...what's up with that? It is a plextor drive, and their plextor drives are used by other vendors. The Yamaha drive is a 16-10-40 drive with the latest firmware. It burns slower than the QUE Fire. The joys of Mac hood.
     
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Jun 19, 2001, 07:38 PM
 
PROBLEM SOLVED!! It was the Carbonlib update the caused the drag and drop problem. I went back to carbonlib 1.2.5.
Thanks for the help...especially GreenMnM
     
<Bill>
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Jun 21, 2001, 08:07 AM
 
Well, more on slow burning with Toast Titanium. After more messing around I discovered it is only on the audio discs where it burns slowly. Data seems to work just great. Still the anemic 6X speed with music. I haven't tried to do a VCD out of fear my machine might turn to stone.

At least OEM 4.1.2 still works great. Guess what gets returned this week.

If anybody has any ideas why only music CD's would burn so slowly please let me know.

Sincerely,
Bill
     
 
   
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