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osiris · Jan 7, 2002, 01:21 PM

Okay - I love Quicktime, I've taken QT seminars, do QT work for clients- but Quicktime is the absolute worst format for streaming. It really stinks, it's slow and pathetic! Attempting to watch a stream is like going to the dentist, no wonder BBC dropped it. And what's the deal with the Key Note - couldn't Apple order more T1/T3 lines?? It's embarrasing.

What do you think? Am I alone here? I am so fed up with this issue.

Cellery · Jan 7, 2002, 02:42 PM

It worked well for me during the keynote, no audio or video drops, though there were audio synch problems from time to time. Embarassingly, my PC laptop running QT4 did great, while my TiBook with Quicktime 5 was unwatchable.

osiris · Jan 7, 2002, 02:56 PM

Wow - better playback on a PC? AND you actually had audio & video?? OMG!

I had friends all over Manhattan with T1s, DSL, Cable - and all we saw were large pixels that resembled something we couldn't identify

I'll have to wait for a replay later I guess.

I wish Apple would stream in Real Player - I never had a problem with it, ever.

+ spiral + · Jan 7, 2002, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by osiris:
<STRONG>it's slow and pathetic!</STRONG>

I agree. I couldn't believe how bad it performs to just play normal movies in os X. The upside is that mpeg 4 is based on QT so hopefully QT6 will be a whole new animal. Hopefully.

Brit Ben · Jan 7, 2002, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by + spiral +:
<STRONG>I agree. I couldn't believe how bad it performs to just play normal movies in os X. The upside is that mpeg 4 is based on QT so hopefully QT6 will be a whole new animal. Hopefully.</STRONG>

My OS X Powerbook Quicktime 5 was absoutely unwatchable.

On a T3, with a stream averaging ~250 kbit/s and peaking around 500, I had a ~50% packet loss, and a frame rate that never rose above 5 fps.

The same stream on a laptop running windows XP, averaging same bandwidths sustained ~11fps and almost 0 packet loss.

Somthing sucks.

Ben.

Jansar · Jan 7, 2002, 04:50 PM

That's why I did not watch it at all. Especially because of the extremely slow network we have here at my school, I try to avoid it.

Jan 7, 2002, 05:57 PM

Maybe I better keep my three year old rev B iMac with 233 mhz G3 cpu, 160 megs of ram and a 4 gig HD if you folks with new machines couldn't view the Webcast. Seriously, I do have a cable modem connection and had previously fine tuned my system for watching the Apple Movie Trailers. I have 36 megs of ram allocated to the Quicktime Player, as less than that seemed to cause my Mac to crash when watching the Large option Movie Trailers. Today I was able to watch the entire Keynote at double-size, which nearly filled my 15 inch monitor vertically and about halp of the screen horizontally. I had a litler synch problem when Netscape Communicator was still running after launching QT from the Apple Web site but that stopped when all I had running was the Player.
I was an early adopter of the iMac so I have been at this for a while -- I have just been waiting for a flat-panel G4 version. I'll place my order for the top model in a couple of months. My momma alwsys told me to never buy version 1 of anything.

DayDream Believers · Jan 8, 2002, 01:23 AM

Try to export an .asf from quicktime on the Mac side and trying to export from the PC side .asf file is smaller......

Tom