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DV video doesn't look like film!
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Apr 13, 2002, 09:58 AM
 
I finished a music video and when I exported it to camera and looked it on tv, the frame rate was way too fast, like the 5 oclock news. Is there a way in Final Cut Pro to make video look more like film, like you'd see in a documentary or a TV ad, or a music video on MTV?
     
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Apr 13, 2002, 10:58 AM
 
Originally posted by macintologist:
<STRONG>I finished a music video and when I exported it to camera and looked it on tv, the frame rate was way too fast, like the 5 oclock news. Is there a way in Final Cut Pro to make video look more like film, like you'd see in a documentary or a TV ad, or a music video on MTV?</STRONG>
Nope, Dems the breaks of shooting DV. Try dropping the frame rate to 24, that may help. the ever so slight noise filter may add that extra degree of "I'm trying to make DV look like film" effect if you are so inclined.


DV is to Film like Digital Cameras are to 35mm. Shooting digital just adds a fake 'glossiness' that true film doesn't have.

[ 04-13-2002: Message edited by: godzookie2k ]
     
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Apr 13, 2002, 11:53 AM
 
check out www.2-pop.com forums.

A lot of info on that site.
     
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Apr 13, 2002, 12:23 PM
 
Y'know... I don't really have anything to contribute to this, but I have one thing to say...

Let's examine the Title of this Topic:
"Video doesn't look like film"

This is true.
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There is a way to emulate it.

In FCP, copy your video track, and set it on top at 50% opacity. After that, it is something with making one track the odd and the other the even feilds. Then you will get something a little more like than film. Never have tried it, i think it was in last month's MacAddict
     
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Apr 13, 2002, 03:26 PM
 
Hi.

There`s also a method based on the Orphenage`s "Magic Bullet" software. Try below link to see the thread....if it does`nt work you`ll find the thread at www.dvgarage.com in the forums under the section " closer to edit " and in a thread called "magic bullet".
http://www.dvgarage.com/garage/break...mp;threadid=95

Tom.
     
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Apr 13, 2002, 04:42 PM
 
It helps to have a DV camera like the Canon XL-1/XLs-1/XM1 which shoots in Frame mode rather than capturing conventional left and right fields.
     
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Apr 13, 2002, 11:04 PM
 
Originally posted by GK:
<STRONG>check out www.2-pop.com forums.

A lot of info on that site.</STRONG>
Please please please don't go to 2pop and post a question about making DV look like film! Instead, please read one of the 4395 other threads already written about exactly the same subject.
     
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Apr 14, 2002, 05:12 AM
 
A very quick and dirty way to help things out (without getting into some of the more complicated methods that you may not understand/have patience for)...

Two filters:

1-Deinterlace filter. This takes the footage from 60 field interlaced to 30 from non-interlaced. Suffice to say this makes the motion look like what a 16mm would capture while shooting at 30fps, at the expense of vertical resolution. You lose half of your vertical res this way, but it's almost the only way you can do it (above there is a bit about deinterlacing two identical tracks on top of each other...I'll assume that looks a little bit better).

2-Levels. Tweak your gamma level so that things are a touch darker. This, in effect, mimicks the gamma curve of film a little bit, and will make a big difference too. You can also reduce the "Input Level" and crush your blacks and whites.


Once again there's better ways to do these things (substitute FCP3's better color correction for the simple Levels filter, and use something like CineMotion to induce a better film-motion component), but these are pretty decent low-brain-drain ways of losing your newsy looking footage.

Good luck!
     
 
   
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