[RyanG3]

Anyone know how to get to the source QuickTime movie for the Tokyo Keynote?? I would like to download it.

The AI boards had links to past keynotes. http://forums.appleinsider.com/ubb/F.../001024-3.html

Any info on how to do this or the link would be great!! Thank you!!!

[Synotic]

Originally posted by RyanG3:
Anyone know how to get to the source QuickTime movie for the Tokyo Keynote?? I would like to download it.

The AI boards had links to past keynotes. http://forums.appleinsider.com/ubb/F.../001024-3.html

Any info on how to do this or the link would be great!! Thank you!!!

I hadn't really understood the directions on AI. O tried saving it as whatever and drag it onto BBEdit with not luck. Anyways I had an idea. I opened it in ResEdit and converted it to a text file. This is what I got when I pened it:

Xfi?ªXÌ |>ata Handleri.net/3/1928/1900/3a95d67c/1a1a1adf53c52a8bf826970b81af1080f05cc1ef52c12e5dc2 389d0b7ff22187ec4e7dea4bae25 940672d635a91883fc6b/tokyo_28.mov;<caron> Computer, Inc. - All Rights Reservedww.apple.comgreat. Although I think the text has only to do with the stream itself..... I to wish to download the MWTKY steam.

[RyanG3]

The closest I came to figuring out where the full movie is is at the following link but it still streams.
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/f..._tokyo_ref.mov

Here is the 300 bit keynote .mov file link (full file, not streaming) that was posted on the AI board. Maybe this has a clue. I just can't figure out how to get to the new Tokyo keynote downloadable file.
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/j...eynote_300.mov

This one works, but it is large. 266 megs or so.

Any other ideas? Thanks.

[jcarr]

Apple may not have the movies available via HTTP. For whatever reason they have posted past keynotes on the HTTP server (in addition to the RTSP server), but since they are in non-listable directories, the exact URL is hard to find. I suspect that the URLs posted on the AI boards were discovered by trial and error in conjunction with educated guessing.

The default directory structure for Mac OS X Server uses different folders for HTTP docs (/Library/WebServer/Documents) and RTSP movies (/Library/QuickTimeStreaming/Movies). I suppose these could be configured to be the same directory, but that would then leave content that you may want to keep as "streaming-only" (i.e. not downloadable) available for download via HTTP if someone figures out the URL.

Someone could conceivably waste a bunch of time looking for a file by trial-and-error, when the file is not even there in the first place.

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[Synotic]

Originally posted by jcarr:
Apple may not have the movies available via HTTP. For whatever reason they have posted past keynotes on the HTTP server (in addition to the RTSP server), but since they are in non-listable directories, the exact URL is hard to find. I suspect that the URLs posted on the AI boards were discovered by trial and error in conjunction with educated guessing.

The default directory structure for Mac OS X Server uses different folders for HTTP docs (/Library/WebServer/Documents) and RTSP movies (/Library/QuickTimeStreaming/Movies). I suppose these could be configured to be the same directory, but that would then leave content that you may want to keep as "streaming-only" (i.e. not downloadable) available for download via HTTP if someone figures out the URL.

Someone could conceivably waste a bunch of time looking for a file by trial-and-error, when the file is not even there in the first place.

I suggest you actually read the topic before saying something like that. Anyways since you don't seem to go to AppleInsider, here are the streams/movies:

28 kbps (17.8 MB)
56 kbps (49.3 MB)
100 kbps (80.9 MB)
300 kbps (433.8 MB)
1000 kbps (not yet posted, but could be soon.)

I wish there was something between 100 kbps and 300! I myself didn 't find the links AppleMaster did. Hope you likw the links.

[Synotic]

Also for those of you who are on 56K modems and want to download the larger files and find IE unreliable for resuming downloads use this:

Speed Downloader

It has stop and resume features, and theoretically the downloads go faster. It logins with 32 different users and gets as much bandwidth as it can get, some servers limit the amount of bandwidth each person gets. I think that is how it works......

[jcarr]

Originally posted by Synotic:
I suggest you actually read the topic before saying something like that.

I'm not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean, but if it's a flame, I do not understand why. My post was completely on topic and accurate.

One can not save media files from an RTSP server without using something like SnapzPro (an inelegant solution for this problem at best). These files (the links you posted, and those posted on the AI boards), are being downloaded via HTTP transport, and therefore by deffinition being served by a HTTP server. If Apple chose to do so, they could remove these files and still offer them via RTSP (QuickTime Streaming).

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[jcarr]

Originally posted by Synotic:
If anyone could figure it out that would be great. Although I think the text has only to do with the stream itself..... I to wish to download the MWTKY steam.

I was able to deduce the HTTP URLs this afternoon (after my first post to this thread). For future reference, the method i used was to download the REF movie and use the MakeRefMovie util to determine the RTSP URLs. Apple conveniently uses the same file names for the files on the RTSP server as on the HTTP server. The RTSP URLs point to an Akamai server, but the filenames all too the form of "tokyo_28.mov," "toky0_56.mov," etc.

I then simply added the "tokyo_XX.mov" filename to the end of the "http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/feb/macworld_tokyo/" HTTP URL for the reference movie.

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[This message has been edited by jcarr (edited 02-23-2001).]

[King Chung Huang]

Synotic: I also replied to the question on how to determine the movie URLs in the AppleInsider thread.

My old instructions were valid at the time they were posted, but things have changed since then. The Akamai addresses are now encoded, so you can't pull the full URL from them, and Apple uses normal ref movies now, which can be viewed using MakeRefMovie. The basic idea now is to get the base URL from the <embed> tag on the web page, and pull the movie file names from the reference file.

[Evinyatar]

Originally posted by Synotic:
Also for those of you who are on 56K modems and want to download the larger files and find IE unreliable for resuming downloads use this:
Speed Downloader

It does nothing on 56k modems. This only works on high bandwidth connections downloading from servers that only allow each connection to have a limited bandwidth smaller than yours. It does _not_ allow 56k modems to go any faster; the problem is your modem's bandwidth there, not the server.
On top of that it's a nightmare for server admins.

[Synotic]

Originally posted by Evinyatar:
It does nothing on 56k modems. This only works on high bandwidth connections downloading from servers that only allow each connection to have a limited bandwidth smaller than yours. It does _not_ allow 56k modems to go any faster; the problem is your modem's bandwidth there, not the server.
On top of that it's a nightmare for server admins.

I wasn't implying that it makes 56K modems faster. I meant that if you don't want to clog up your phone lines for a few days, since you can't call anyone with your phone line, that you should use it because of it's stop and resume feature. Would you like me to change the name of application to File Downloader? I was just explaining how it works for other connections, to explain the name.

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[RyanG3]

Thanks for the links!!!

Thanks for the help Synotic, King Chung Huang, AppleMaster and jcarr.

One other question, where do I go to get MakeRefMovie?

Again, thanks!

[King Chung Huang]

Originally posted by RyanG3:
Thanks for the links!!!

Thanks for the help Synotic, King Chung Huang, AppleMaster and jcarr.

One other question, where do I go to get MakeRefMovie?

Again, thanks!

MakeRefMovie can be found here. I've described its use in this AppleInsider thread.

[mrchin]

When's that 1000kbps stream going to be available for download? Probably not gonna be! Oh well, I've got the 300 burned to disc. Had to have something to test on DiscBurner with my Iomega USB burner.

[This message has been edited by mrchin (edited 02-26-2001).]