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Clip problems (QuickTime, FCP... everything)
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Clinically Insane
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Nov 12, 2001, 06:57 PM
 
Recently I recieved a short DV stream from a friend. It's NTSC, I believe, but I'm not sure.

When I play it on this system, which is PAL, the ratio looks wrong and the video has lines on the edges of objects. Fine. Out of ratio, whatever.

When I play it, the ENTIRE SYSTEM lags extremely badly until it stops.

I *need* this video to work on a movie. Does anyone know what the deal is?

Seems like a QuickTime problem... I might "downgrade" to QT4 Pro... but nonetheless...

I've had this problem before. I erased my system, installed QT4, reinstalled FCP1 and recaptured all the media. That fixed the problem but I didn't have time to isolate the cause...

[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Cipher13 ]
     
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Nov 12, 2001, 07:18 PM
 
Ya I've noticed FCP converts PAL->NTSC and vice versa without maintaining aspect ratio. Never had a problem with lag though. Maybe the data rate is too high for your system?
So. Does anybody have a solution ?
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Chuck
     
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Nov 16, 2001, 07:58 AM
 
Originally posted by Chuck_star:
<STRONG>Ya I've noticed FCP converts PAL-&gt;NTSC and vice versa without maintaining aspect ratio. Never had a problem with lag though. Maybe the data rate is too high for your system?
So. Does anybody have a solution ?</STRONG>
The data rate isn't too high... I sorta wish that was it.

After I originally had the problem, I reinstalled OS9.1, QuickTime, deleted FCP2 and went back to 1.25 and recaptured all my media... and the problems vanished. I then went up to FCP2 and it worked like a charm the entire time.

Now this... blah. I'm gonna do the same again, I suppose, but I'm still worried; I'll be recieving video from different sources so I have little control over it. It's gonna be tricky...

Thanks for the reply
     
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Nov 23, 2001, 07:38 AM
 
No takers?
     
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Nov 23, 2001, 09:04 PM
 
nope
     
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Nov 24, 2001, 06:54 AM
 
Well the aspect ratio will be out. If you're dropping the NTSC clip into a PAL time line you'll need to render it before you can play it back correctly. I think you're biggest problem will be the conversion of the frame rates from 29.97 NTSC down to 25fps for PAL. I've never had to do this before - although often times we'll drop in a quicktime clip with slightly different frame rates and i've never had any problem. So i guess that shouldn't be the problem.

What are you trying to do with the footage when the system is lagging? Is it simply trying to play in the preview window ?

You mention the video has lines on the edges of objects - Can you explain this ? If you've dropped the footage into the timeline and have the image+wireframe prefernce selected your clips will have lines around them so you can composite (I assume you already knew this but .....)

And as always post this on 2-pop

Sorry to be of little help.
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Nov 24, 2001, 11:41 PM
 
Originally posted by opallaser:
<STRONG>Well the aspect ratio will be out. If you're dropping the NTSC clip into a PAL time line you'll need to render it before you can play it back correctly. I think you're biggest problem will be the conversion of the frame rates from 29.97 NTSC down to 25fps for PAL. I've never had to do this before - although often times we'll drop in a quicktime clip with slightly different frame rates and i've never had any problem. So i guess that shouldn't be the problem.</STRONG>
This happens when capturing video too, with all settings right for the camera. So it isn't just NTSC clips.

<STRONG>
What are you trying to do with the footage when the system is lagging? Is it simply trying to play in the preview window ?</STRONG>
Simply playing... even in QuickTime Player it does it. It isn't an FCP problem seemingly, but a QuickTime one.

<STRONG>
You mention the video has lines on the edges of objects - Can you explain this ? If you've dropped the footage into the timeline and have the image+wireframe prefernce selected your clips will have lines around them so you can composite (I assume you already knew this but .....)</STRONG>
Hmm. The objects bleed into each other ("object" meaning a shape with a certain, or similar colours) with horizontal lines... like bad MPEG1 compression.

<STRONG>
And as always post this on 2-pop

Sorry to be of little help.</STRONG>
Will do... and thanks for the help

I'm gonna mess around with QuickTime to try and fix it...
     
 
   
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