Can anyone tell me how I can get a quicktime installer to burn onto CD's.
I want my customers to view videos in Quicktime instead of the Windows version. I want to have the installer on the same CD that my company videos are on so they don't have to download Quicktime.(time factor, easier etc.)

THAT IS ILLEGAL. APPLE WILL BE MAD. PLEASE DON'T DO THIS. (However, it's not really that hard. My e-mail is above.)

i guess i have a loose sense, in some aspects, of what is legal or perhaps it is just that bit of anarchist in me

i would've thought that this would be kosher enough, i mean QT is free and it would mean a few more computers with QT on 'em maybe

i dunno, i'm just mumbling in the corner here

Yes, mumbling. Though I'm still in high school (for 1 more month), I work at a SW developing company, and do lots of Director programming, among other things. Back when QT 3 came out, we wanted to use all the cool effects and so on in our projects, but you have to go thru all kinds of licensing crud with Apple to be allowed to distribute the latest version of QT. I know it's dumb since you can get it right off the net, but that's the way it is. Unless Apple's policy has changed (which is unlikely in this area per history), you are supposed to pay them to do this. Supposed to. I feel your pain bigtime.

I've decided to just go ahead and explain this, since there are legitimate uses, and I have no qualms about the whole thing. In order to install QT (whatever the current version is, 4.1.2 as of this post) on a machine that is not on the 'net, you must do the following:

- if you're working with Macs, you can just copy all the QT extensions including Sound Manager onto a disk and drop them on the System Folder of the receiving machine. The "do you want to put these in the Extensions folder" dialog will appear, click yes, restart, and you're set.

- if you're working with PC's or would rather let the user choose the set of components through the install program, you must download QT as usual first.
- Make sure that you are updating all of the components that you want available to the end user at this time - when you hit OK, all of these files will first get stored into the QuickTime Install Cache.
- You can install QT or not once the files have been downloaded, it doesn't matter, since the files are where you need them.
- Copy the QT Installer program and the Cache file onto a disk, placing them in the same folder (at least this is the Mac way, I'm not sure where the Cache resides on PC's.) In any event, duplicate the setup on the disk to be just like on the original computer.
- For the Mac, I know that you can run the installer from the disk at this point, and it probably works the same on the PC side, but if not you can instruct the end user where to place the install files, and then run the program. The installer will read the source files from the Cache rather than looking on the net.

I hope this helps anyone who can't download QT onto their machine get the best possible multimedia experience! I feel it necessary to reiterate, however, that this is not legal when used for the purpose of distribution with a commercial package.

Hey MacOS761, what about the Quicktime bits that QT put's into a folder and not into the extensions folder like duh! the QTPlayer, Pictureviewer etc. Gosh I'm so glad you decided to go ahead and explain this, especially since you work at a sw developing company and everything. What exactly are you explaining? The installer can be obtained full by download (but not for download) and on hundreds of magazine cover disks. Stop trying to show off your (lack) of knowledge by making things appear far more complicated than they actually need to be. Cache my arse!!!

Answer to post: QT installer freely available for download or from magazine cover disks - MacFormat, Macworld, sometimes MacUser, Digit, Computer Arts...need I go on?

I'm sorry if I have ruffled any feathers. I do refer any skeptics back to the original question, though, and would like to clarify that that is the question I was answering. Thanks for pointing out the QT Player and PictureViewer which I forgot to mention, but you will notice that with the proper extensions any version of these programs will display current file types. You can even use MoviePlayer 2.5.1 to do simple edits w/o having to have QT Pro. I apologize if my explanation was a bit wordy, but I was trying to explain in full detail to keep from having to answer simple questions. I find it odd that MacAddict has not had QT 4 on their discs yet if it is available this way... I was not aware of that. If this is true, I'm surprised nobody had mentioned that before. You'll note that such discs have terms of use which state that you are not allowed to distribute materials on them w/o permission. If you are to do something illegal, better to get in trouble with just one company rather than two. And I hold that it is not legal to distribute QT with a commercial product without first entering into an agreement with Apple. I believe that the original question was referring to a Windows copy of QT, and I will readdress this in a simpler format:
- find a PC that's online
- uninstall QT to insure that you need all the components
- download QT
- burn the installer program and the cache file to disk
- instruct client to run the installer

Once again, this is not legal for distribution with a commercial product, only for private use.

Hey, just 'cos you're not aware of something, doesn't mean it isn't so.

Digit and Computer Arts (and others) are Hermaphrodite mags with most things being for both platforms on their cover disks. I take your point about the original question relating to PC/Wintel boxes though.

I'm also at a bit of a loss as to the point of the QT2.5.1 nostalgia comment, unless it's a veiled "...I've been using Macs forever and know everything..." type remark in which case you can cram it up your ass. Otherwise, fold it nicely and put it away for future use.

my fine feathered friend, you are a valued member of the forums and have been helpful to a lot of people, but please lighten up a little on those responses... amusing as they may be from time to time... please

or save it for someone who really deserves it, like that miscreant Cash68

[This message has been edited by wlonh (edited 05-13-2000).]

Well, I'm only two years older than the Mac, so I can't say I've been using them forever or anything, but I can say that I think these boards are meant for people to share information to help each other out, and that's what I'm trying to do. Thanks for the corrections, now let's move on.

Fair comment, and apologies.

I'm am a great believer in the help value of these forums also and perhaps sometimes I react a bit too strongly when I think this ethos is being undermined. ( Although strictly speaking I shouldn't consider it my problem to deal with, right!)

The forum seems to attract a lot of new(ish) users, even 1st time computer owners and the last thing they need is to be further convinced that 'puters are very complicated. Although I not saying that it was exactly the case this time, hence the apology!!!

Let's face it, if they've bought an Apple they've already had to put up with some abuse/derision!!!

Dyslexic Mac users untie!

Umm... =)
OK, well, anywho, you can just dload quicktime as a whole installer @ http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/support/


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