Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Enthusiast Zone > Classic Macs and Mac OS > OS 9 Calculator

OS 9 Calculator
Thread Tools
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Join Date: Aug 2000
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 13, 2001, 09:24 PM
 
Just installed OS 9.1 and the Calculator will not open. An Out of Memory crops up but I have about 80 MB free. Whats going on?
Apart from that 9.1 definately feels snapier - although not much different in looks wise from 9.0.
     
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 13, 2001, 10:01 PM
 
I have no problem with the calculator

dopik
I am a Compulsive Software Update Button Clicker
     
exa
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2000
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 13, 2001, 11:06 PM
 
Curse that calculator, I had a replacement calculator convinently named "calculator" that was deleted by 9.1... grr...
     
Mac Elite
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 14, 2001, 01:12 AM
 
I wonder why Apple never bothered updating the Calculator. It even still has a System 7 UI!!!
     
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Pullman, WA USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 14, 2001, 01:37 AM
 
Actually they did update the calculator a while ago. Just changed it from a desk accessory to a full fledged app ;-)
     
Senior User
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: melbourne, australia
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 14, 2001, 01:42 AM
 
One replacement is: YaCalculator22. Can get it from VersionTracker, I think.
     
Mac Elite
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 14, 2001, 04:19 AM
 
Well, yeah, I guess. But the UI could use some work. The Calculator in Mac OS X looks ok as a basic calculator, but I wish there was an option to trigger an advanced/scientific calculator. Oh well, might as well get a 3rd party app.
     
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Valley Stream, NY, USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 15, 2001, 01:56 PM
 
Originally posted by Tominator:
Actually they did update the calculator a while ago. Just changed it from a desk accessory to a full fledged app ;-)
Actually, Calculator hasn't been updated since System 7.1.2. If you open it up in ResEdit, you'll see that it's neither a native PowerPC program nor even a 680x0 regular application - it's a 100%-pure antique Desk Accessory, the same kind yer mamma used to move in & out of the System file with Font/DA Mover.

The copyright date says "1983-1991, 1994". I wouldn't be surprised if whatever update was made in '94 was _very_ minor. What comes to mind is the "accessory background pattern" trick... you went to the old Desktop Pattern" control panel and option-clicked on a pattern. That would then become the background for Find File, Calculator, Puzzle, etc. This is not a System 7 interface, but a System 6 interface.

My guess is that Calculator has some value to someone inside Apple. It's very compact; it was probably written with a lot of care... who knows?

BTW, Text and Numbers are two other old-style control panels installed by OS 9.1. Numbers claims a copyright date of 1992! Poking around in Text with ResEdit reveals some weird stuff...

[This message has been edited by Potatoswatter (edited 01-15-2001).]
     
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cupertino, CA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 15, 2001, 02:31 PM
 
It's likely the original person with this problem has the Motorola MathLib replacement installed, which requires signifigantly more memory than Apple's MathLib. Removing the Motorola library from the extensions folder and rebooting should let Calculator run fine.
     
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2001
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 15, 2001, 09:28 PM
 
Originally posted by Potatoswatter:
don't feel like including the whole quote...
I wonder why Apple goes to the trouble of updating General Controls, but not Numbers and Text. I just moved them to the Disabled folder anyway, as I never, ever use them.

And the Chooser... wow, THAT thing is old. However, I hacked around in ResEdit and managed to fake a platinum interface on the chooser using lots of PICT resources.

But that Calculator is stubborn.
     
P
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 16, 2001, 05:58 AM
 
The MathLib idea is probably correct, but a workaround is to give the calculator more memory in Get Info.

The Calculator is good in its own way. It's fast, uses little RAM and screen space and has what most people need. Personally, I use a separate calculator, but that's just me...
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
clueless
Guest
Status:
Reply With Quote
Jan 19, 2001, 03:08 PM
 
Mr. P-- How do you add more memory when the get info doesn't
give you that option??
     
hmr
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Iceland
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 19, 2001, 08:22 PM
 
The Calculator in Mac OS 9.1 is almost identical to the one in Mac OS 0.97 (I've got that system running on my Mac Plus - outstanding sysem, really cool zoom rects. effects, too - slide to the middle of the screen and then expand).

Oops, got a little carried away there, sorry.
     
Forum Regular
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: San Diego, California, USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 20, 2001, 02:50 AM
 

Why would anyone want it the Mac OS calculator? I use another old calculator from Texas Instruments. It emulates the powerful TI-82 handheld calculator. It can display several recent actions, can graph and do fancy math, can be programmed (or you can download programs others have written), etc. And it's free! Or at least it was about 6 years ago. Can't remember the original name. The Mac Graphing Calculator is incredible too, but probably too inconvenient for casual use.
iMac 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo 6GB, OS 10.6.8
Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Core i7 8GB. OS 10.6.8
iPhone 3GS 32GB, OS 5 / TiBook / Newton (2)
     
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Apr 2000
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Jan 20, 2001, 03:20 AM
 
Originally posted by clueless:
Mr. P-- How do you add more memory when the get info doesn't
give you that option??
Open it in ResEdit, and edit the SIZE resource, I think.

Cipher13
     
   
Thread Tools
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:07 AM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2015 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.8 © 2000-2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2