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Speech Recognition crashes G3
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Jan 25, 2000, 09:14 PM
 
I'm running OS 9 on a B&W G3 350. Been trying to get speech recognition to work. Every time I enable the extensions, though, the machine crashes at the end of startup (around the time before Finder icons start appearing)

Has anyone had/heard of similar problems? Any ideas for workarounds?

I have re-installed the extensions several times, run Norton, etc. Conflict Catcher thought it was the whole set of Speech extensions and cdev's, but I can use Speech-to-Text stuff.

Thanks!

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Jan 26, 2000, 12:45 PM
 
By Speech Recognition you mean Apple's or ViaVoice?

I'm running OS9 BW/G3/350/rev2/256MB and Speakable Items.

You did a clean install so none of the old prefs are being used?

If you boot with extensions off you can open CC8 and scan for damaged resources as a start.

No matter how careful, and Norton, Disk Warrior, TechTool Pro, and letting DFA repair on startups after a crash - that is not 100% fool-proof that something is awry. A clean install after reinitializing with Drive Setup or something though should.

I have been seeing freezes etc and ended up reinstalling Office 98 and IE/OE to get around it.

Load order of extensions (Norton Antivirus) sometimes have to be changed and might do what you are experiencing.

Even CC8 (8.06) has an issue with OS 9 as I understand it. Minor but first time this has happened.

personally, the Mac OS is "fragile" and in need of surgery (OS X hopefully) to end this and more. Mainframes have isolated partitions so a bomb doesn't take the system down or corrupt system files.

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Jan 26, 2000, 04:25 PM
 
sorry for the confusion - I meant Apple's.

it's not really important that I get it up and working, just something that would have been nice to experiment with.

I did do a clean-install when I originally installed OS 9, but the system crashed upon the first restart after that.

For me, it's not really worth the hassle or time (sleep is much better =) of reformatting, and re-installing for non-essential software. I was just wondering if anyone else had had similar conflicts and, for example, could say "oh yeah, extension X breaks that sucker"

Thanks for the advice, though!

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Jan 26, 2000, 06:09 PM
 
In that case, Extension Overload is one shareware (check versiontracker) that does some of what conflict catcher does and has database of error codes and such.

Complete Conflict Compendium is a web based searchable database of what other users have been able to confirm - if people take the time to track them down and then share them so others can avoid same. There is a free email newsletter of all updates, good for when say OS 9 is released and new things to learn. Sometimes it takes days to start with a clean system just Apple stuff then slowly and gradually add one at a time - but often it is not "A and B" but two extensions triggering a conflict that makes sleuthing harder.

If you do come up with why, or for curiousity: http://www.mac-conflicts.com/

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