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moving items (not just copying items)...possible?
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May 3, 2001, 05:08 AM
 
Hello everyone!

I don't know if I've been working with Windows too long at work or what, but is there anyway I can move a file that's on my desktop (or anywhere else for that matter) to another place (like a hard drive)? You just can't click and drag, because that just makes a copy. Isn't there some keystroke + click and drag that would move an item, or am I dreaming?

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May 3, 2001, 07:59 AM
 
Originally posted by tr:
Hello everyone!

I don't know if I've been working with Windows too long at work or what, but is there anyway I can move a file that's on my desktop (or anywhere else for that matter) to another place (like a hard drive)? You just can't click and drag, because that just makes a copy. Isn't there some keystroke + click and drag that would move an item, or am I dreaming?

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You've been working with Windows way too much

Just dragging executes a move. Apple-Option drag = alias. Option drag = copy.

Of course, if you "move" an item from one disk to another it will automatically 'copy'.

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May 3, 2001, 02:06 PM
 
I must be completely brain dead! How could I not have known that?
Thanks for clearing that up for me, Cipher 13. This was driving me crazy last night.

And for all you people out there, see what working with Windows does to your mind? JUST SAY NO!

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May 3, 2001, 09:38 PM
 
Is it possible to move an item from one disk to another without copying? I have my drive partioned(no particular reason, I just felt like doing it) and I hate having to copy a file or program and then delete the original.
     
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May 4, 2001, 12:00 AM
 
I'd sure like to know how to do a move instead of copy on the Mac. I find the inability to do a move between drives/partitions almost as irritating as the Windows default make alias instead of move/copy.
     
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May 4, 2001, 05:02 PM
 
You know, I don't think there is a way to 'move' an item from one disk to another without copying it. Almost everyday, I find myself working on my Mac, right clicking and dragging an item, hoping to see a contextual menu that says 'move here', like I do at work on Windows. That's why I thought there was some sort of keystroke/click-drag combo that you could use to move stuff...there has to be a better way than 'copying and deleting'

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May 4, 2001, 11:06 PM
 
Right, I use Windows everyday (do I have a choice?) and the MOVE command is one thing that I'd like my favorite OS, MacOS to have!

     
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May 5, 2001, 10:34 AM
 
Nah, you have to copy it. Its a pain, yeah, but you get used to it after a whiel, and it becomes habit to just hit Apple-delete after copying some files, or labelling them for deletion - and really, it does allow you to see whether a file is on a certain volume or not.

I have 4 partitions and I find this a problem mostly with files on the desktop, as the 4 partitions share a single desktop...

I wish I could hav a virtual desktop thing and hide or show certian combinations of desktops of the different partitions... you know what I mean...

What would be nice is if you hold down a certain key combination it moves instead of copying...

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May 5, 2001, 03:53 PM
 
Hmmm, what about a clean up AppleScript? You'd still have to copy, but it'd erase the original for you automatically. Not perfect, but at least a step in the right direction.
     
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May 6, 2001, 09:16 AM
 
Originally posted by RedJack:
Hmmm, what about a clean up AppleScript? You'd still have to copy, but it'd erase the original for you automatically. Not perfect, but at least a step in the right direction.
That'd require a helluva script - not to mention this action attached to every folder you copy stuff into.

AppleScript is too slow - while its a good idea of yours in theory, it'd be 10 times faster to actually delete it manually, instead of waiting for the script to run - (unless you keep it in memory, but then, the first time it'd be slow), and you can't do anything while it executes...



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May 6, 2001, 03:08 PM
 
There's really little excuse for NOT having a simple keyboard shortcut for moving files without copying them. This has driven me mad for years. The "you get used to it" argument may be fine for some people, but I loathe it.
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May 6, 2001, 05:13 PM
 
The idea behind keeping this function of dragging to another volume making a copy is so that if a connection error occurred, there would be no chance of the file being lost. I suppose it should never really happen these days, but as we all know, Apple likes to keep backwards compatibility in their machines (sic).
It would be a good function to have, however I don't see it being imlemented in the near future.
I suppose you make a suggestion to the MacOS X feedback site you might see it in X, I don't think they will put it in OS 9 though.


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May 7, 2001, 04:56 AM
 
Though I'd love to see that functionality in os 9, command-copy in os X appears to do it most of the time (at least between partitions & network disks... haven't tried it with externals - don't really have any on my os x machine )
     
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May 8, 2001, 11:04 AM
 
Originally posted by Dogma:
The idea behind keeping this function of dragging to another volume making a copy is so that if a connection error occurred, there would be no chance of the file being lost. I suppose it should never really happen these days, but as we all know, Apple likes to keep backwards compatibility in their machines (sic).
It would be a good function to have, however I don't see it being imlemented in the near future.
Yeah, and the first time I lost something in the transfer, I'd be grumbling about having to hold down the option key to copy to that floppy instead of moving. It's kind of a "one or the other" thing.
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