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May 6, 2002, 04:38 AM
 
I have a BW G3 with the original 6 GB HD, an a new IBM Deskstar 60 GB in it. Everything is OK when I boot from X and launch Classic, but if I try to boot in plain OS 9, all the partitions on the IBM are definitely corrupted and unrecoverable.
The same happens to the target partition if I try to install OS 9 on the IBM.
Any clue, anyone?

PS. I will keep this post alive, I need an answer.

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May 6, 2002, 08:40 AM
 
Yep. Your revision of the B&W G3 suffers severe corruption of the IDE bus.

There's nothing you can do to fix it. You basically can't use a second drive, and corruption is often present on the primary bus.

Your best bet is to get a PCI IDE card...

Sorry man.

I'd yell at Apple too, but I can't imagine they'd do much about it.

You might be able to threaten with a class action lawsuit... there are plenty of people who suffer this.
     
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May 6, 2002, 10:12 AM
 
Originally posted by Cipher13:
<STRONG>Yep. Your revision of the B&W G3 suffers severe corruption of the IDE bus.

There's nothing you can do to fix it. You basically can't use a second drive, and corruption is often present on the primary bus.

Your best bet is to get a PCI IDE card...

Sorry man.

I'd yell at Apple too, but I can't imagine they'd do much about it.

You might be able to threaten with a class action lawsuit... there are plenty of people who suffer this.</STRONG>
Thanx Cipher13!
Can you explain to me why everything is OK with X on that IBM drive? I've been using X for 4 months without a problem, and booting OS 9 from a CD makes no problem at all either...
Is it the motherboard section of the bus, or the connexion cable?
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May 6, 2002, 11:01 AM
 
Really, you don't have problems with OSX?

That's very odd... I can't explain that without more information.

Perhaps it is occurring, and you haven't noticed; OSX may be more tolerant, though personally I've found OS9 far more tolerant of corruption than X. I suggest you run X for a little while, then run DiskWawrrior over it, and see what sort of shape the partition is in. It probably won't be to pleasant, unfortunately.

The focus of the documented B&W G3 Data corruption issue is the IDE controller ('motherboard' aspect).
     
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May 6, 2002, 11:07 AM
 
Originally posted by Cipher13:
<STRONG>Really, you don't have problems with OSX?

That's very odd... I can't explain that without more information.

Perhaps it is occurring, and you haven't noticed; OSX may be more tolerant, though personally I've found OS9 far more tolerant of corruption than X. I suggest you run X for a little while, then run DiskWawrrior over it, and see what sort of shape the partition is in. It probably won't be to pleasant, unfortunately.

The focus of the documented B&W G3 Data corruption issue is the IDE controller ('motherboard' aspect).</STRONG>
I will inspect my IBM after some weeks of use. It was working like a charm for 3 months until that sad day when I decided to reboot in 9 to play Spaceward Ho over AppleTalk. in one second I lost all my data on all the partition of the IBM, among which 5 GB of captured digital video.....
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May 6, 2002, 09:20 PM
 
OS X may just deal better with problems (typically does).... it is a severe problem. The problem is that the IDE controller chip on the motherboard is flawed, so nothing can really be done to fix it. But you can get another card. I did, and since it is ATA/66... much faster than the ATA/33 on the board. I highly recommend it.
I always use protection when fscking my Mac... Do you?
     
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May 7, 2002, 03:57 AM
 
Originally posted by macvillage.net:
<STRONG>OS X may just deal better with problems (typically does).... it is a severe problem. The problem is that the IDE controller chip on the motherboard is flawed, so nothing can really be done to fix it. But you can get another card. I did, and since it is ATA/66... much faster than the ATA/33 on the board. I highly recommend it.</STRONG>
Is there a software that can make a reliable diagnostic of my hardware?
Something I can download and use to be sure of what is hapening?

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