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Problem with playing OpenGL games in OS 9
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Oct 10, 1999, 11:49 PM
 
I have a beige G3 with an ATI Rage Orion graphics card, and I just upgraded to Mac OS 9.0. The new version of the OS installed new ATI drivers and Open GL 1.1.1.

However, whenever I tried to play a 3D game, like Quake 2, Bugdom, or Q3test, the game would tell me that I need more than 4MB VRAM to run it properly, when my card has 16MB.

So I decided to revert to the ATI drivers from the ATI Universal Installer 4.0.1, and the RAVE games would run properly, but the Open GL games would all crash.

Any ideas?
     
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Oct 10, 1999, 11:55 PM
 
will OpenGL 1.0 (or other versions if any) work on OS 9?

the perils of upgrading to a new OS before the Apple bugfixes and third-party driver updates are numerous... perhaps you should downgrade completely to 8.6 and wait a few weeks for fixes before using OS 9 again.

I know this is NOT what you want to hear, but it is the only cautious thing to do.

I do not plan on installing OS 9 until maybe the first week of December, we'll see.

NOW, if you are using a recent beta of OS 9, OF COURSE, it should go without saying that you should wait for the GM release to see what results you will have then... BUT I guarantee that MacOS 9 will be quite problematic for the first several weeks for MOST folks UNTIL the Apple bugfixes and third-party drivers 'catch up' with MacOS 9 (this has been the case for the past several MacOS releases, even so, I am very much looking forward to MacOS 9!!)


[This message has been edited by wlonh (edited 10-11-1999).]
     
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Oct 10, 1999, 11:57 PM
 
Good idea. Actually, I have two startup disks, with OS 9 on one and OS 8.6 on the other, so if I need to play Quake I could just switch startup disks and restart. The experience (other than the bad video drivers) has been positive for the most part.
     
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Oct 11, 1999, 03:15 AM
 
The other option is to wait until the OS is actually officially released.

- Scott
     
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Oct 11, 1999, 01:32 PM
 
It has been released. The data was supposedly Oct. 23 - but some customers have received theirs already.
     
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Oct 11, 1999, 03:09 PM
 
make sure you have reinstalled Mesa3dfxEngine.

Thats your problem

Rergards

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Oct 11, 1999, 03:09 PM
 
others are having probs:

ATI Nexus 128 conflict? A reader found that "the new OpenGL extensions conflict with the drivers to the ATI Nexus 128 card in my beige 266 G3. I cannot run any game such as Quake 2 or 3. Also, the Finder crashes every time after booting the computer. The problem was solved by replacing the newer OpenGL extensions with version 1.0.
(from MacFixit)
     
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Oct 11, 1999, 05:12 PM
 
I've found a solution! The problem was that MacOS 9's not installing the ATI Rage 128 3D Accelerator extension. I had to open up the Installation Tome with Tomeviewer and extract that file. Afterwards, everything worked fine. Maybe the person with Nexus 128 problems can do the same thing...
     
   
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