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ms has infected my finder.
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Mar 10, 2001, 09:30 PM
 
hi people:

iím blaming this on having just installed office 2001 onto my previously stable Ďputer (running 9.0.4/IE5/OE502/media player/64MB realram/129VM on).

but now the plague has spread and infested the system.

in the beginning, i doubled memory to each office app.

disk first aided (which now takes ages), re-indexed sherlock, restarted & rebuilt desktop (now takes ages too and seizes at the end).

my OSís synapses snapped. canít find or open anything. excuses like:

*canít open cause canít find the app that created it. Ďcanít find a translation extension with appropriate translaters.

*error type -3,045.

IE5 wonít open from the planet icon.
*helper app not found or missing from internet prefs. use internet config to set helper apps (this oneís new to me).

waking from sleep no longer. curser frozen.

canít remember when but at some point i trashed finder prefs and restarted. (but not the OS prefs. should i?, what will happen?)

at the time it seemed reasonable. finder problems were already significant.

now half my application and well-worn alias icons (cd, dvd, iMovie, appleworks, IE5, ect) have reverted to the generic icon - as seen in view/options.

aliases no longer work: i now have to hunt down each app to open.

half my documents appear as blank page icons and wonít open directly.

havenít got a burner so iím not ready to back-up and clean install (yet). am itching to do a total clean sweep but in the meantime ...

the walls are overrun by infiltrators. line of command is broken. communications down. please send help.

posthumanus over.

     
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Mar 10, 2001, 10:22 PM
 
Thats quite a bitch of a situation you've got yourself there.
Use TechTool to DELETE your desktop file, then create a new one.
Zap your PRAM.
Hit the CUDA switch, and also remove the PRAM battery for 15 minutes.
Delete the System file and Finder and their prefrerences, and replace them (use TOME viewer to get them out of the install package on your CD, or install a 2nd system and get them from there).
If that doesn't work, clean install.
If THAT doesn't work, you're gonna have to format it...

Cipher13
     
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Mar 10, 2001, 10:37 PM
 
guess what. it all came back.

this was really weird, like my whole system had concussion for two days.

i did some maintenence: auto purge, DFA, turned location mgr extension on, ran system profiler, virexed, upated sherlock index, restarted and rebuilt desktop and promptly got a system error, finder, type 41 bomb.

restarted from the side button and system has come out of its coma.

i'll be damned. what did i do right?

posthumanus over.

     
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Mar 11, 2001, 01:18 AM
 
It's cybermagic, posthumanus

Sounds like my little problem, doesn't it, Cipher--here today, gone tomorrow.
And that's true too.--Shakespeare, King Lear
     
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Mar 11, 2001, 01:18 AM
 
damn thing still seizes up after sleep. any ideas on this?

posthumanus over.
     
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Mar 11, 2001, 02:03 AM
 
I had a similar sleep freeze problem from a corrupt extension Apple Audio Extension 1.2.2 that came with OS 9.1. I think iTunes had something to do with it as well, but thats not much more than speculation. Replaced the extension and my sleep freezes went away. Give that a try if you run iTunes.
     
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Mar 11, 2001, 05:20 AM
 
Yoyo, it does... very strange

Hm... posthumanus, type 41 is bad news.
Replace the Finder and System and their prefs right now.

You running QT5?

Cipher13
     
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Mar 12, 2001, 06:58 AM
 
Actually, this is an undocumented MS feature.

MS is running a test of it's latest Mac-destroying virus. Bill's staff only activates it occasionally just to make sure that they have effective control over all MacOS machines. Some version of the virus gets installed every time you install an MS app. They can be activated if you have bad thoughts about MS. Most importantly, they get their energy from *your fear* -- so above all KEEP CALM!!!

Not to worry... they don't plan to activate these viruses permanently throughout the Mac community... not unless they lose the DOJ case, that is.

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Mar 12, 2001, 07:41 AM
 
thanks Ca$h. i would never have thought of that.

posthumanus over.
     
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Mar 12, 2001, 08:35 AM
 
Seems to me like most of your problems came from a faulty desktop rebuild, during which i believe default icons, aliases and connections to default applications are updated. It's always bad if your machine hangs during desktop rebuild.
But what exactly was the problem originally, after installing Office? Office installs some extensions and some fonts, but that schould not be the problem. You installed something else at the same time?
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Mar 13, 2001, 07:40 PM
 
Yep Mosi - I bet the desktop database got polluted. I've seen this before on iMacs.

Also it's a good idea to rebuild your desktop on a monthly basis or so, depending on how many files you go through.

BTW - isn't it amusing how all the MS apps install with the default memory set so low that they are destined
to crash? Those guys must really want your money for a support call.
"Faster, faster! 'Till the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." - HST
     
   
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