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Can "bad" CSM bring down the system?
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Dec 24, 2001, 01:13 AM
 
I know that there may be extension and control panel conflicts. What about control strip modules? Can they mess up the system and crash it?

I have installed a newer version of a Process Manager CSM and then all the problems started. Applications (IE, Eudora, etc.) crashing with type 2 and type 3 errors. Finder quit unexpectedly twice within an hour.

So I went back to the older version of PM (1.4.2). Everything is stable again. In general, my OS 9.2.2. is almost as stable as X.
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Dec 24, 2001, 01:44 AM
 
Anything can really; but... eh. It shouldn't.

Only when clicked or activated should it crash it, but during initialisation I'm sure it can wreak havoc.

So while it IS possible, I'd blame any associated control panels or extensions first. A good CSM is one that doesn't do sh!t till it's called on.
     
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Dec 24, 2001, 03:07 PM
 
both the G3Strip and G4Strip have rendered OS9 unstartable in classic for me. it may have been fixed in later OS9 and classic updates (or maybe G4Strip updates), but all in all, this means yes. it would freeze while loading, before i could call on it by clicking.
     
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Dec 24, 2001, 03:10 PM
 
edit: ew, my first double-post. stupid crappy AOL connection. yeah, yeah...

[ 12-24-2001: Message edited by: superlarry ]
     
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Dec 24, 2001, 06:59 PM
 
I had a situation in 9.2.1 where the Control Strip was hogging 20-30% of CPU time when the Quicktime control strip was installed. Of course, there were other problems with 9.2.1 besides that which made me switch back to 9.1, but that was a biggie. The UMAX scanner control strip module (basically a lamp on/off switch) was pretty buggy, too.

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Dec 25, 2001, 07:19 PM
 
Originally posted by wunderkind:
<STRONG>I know that there may be extension and control panel conflicts. What about control strip modules? Can they mess up the system and crash it?

I have installed a newer version of a Process Manager CSM and then all the problems started. Applications (IE, Eudora, etc.) crashing with type 2 and type 3 errors. Finder quit unexpectedly twice within an hour.

So I went back to the older version of PM (1.4.2). Everything is stable again. In general, my OS 9.2.2. is almost as stable as X.</STRONG>
I would say yes, its quite possible. CSM's are merely small programs, so there's no reason to think that they'd be any less susceptible for conflicts than any other program, especially one like this that is sitting around poking at the system and gauging its responses. Its odd to see it, but an always on module like this or the battery module would definately be in a position to cause some problems.
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Dec 25, 2001, 08:30 PM
 
I have to add that the Process Manager CSM (the latest version) which brought down my whole system works as an application switcher by placing small icons of all active applications in control strip. Therefore, it should be active most or all of the time and could actively interfer with the OS.

Thank you for all the replies!
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