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OSX or Linux on an 8600
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Jun 28, 2002, 09:42 AM
 
I was wondering, given all the problems I have heard of people running OS X on non-supported systems, if Linux would be better to run on a upgraded PM 8600. I plan on getting a Powerforce G4 450 to go in it soon.
Would MacOS X, YellowDog Linux, or LinuxPPC be the best bet?
I would just stick with MacOS 9, but I MacOS X on my iBook spoiled me to the ultimate stability of a Unix based OS.
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Jun 28, 2002, 12:22 PM
 
Well, with your upgrade and a large amount of RAM you could enjoy OSX on this machine. I've run OSX on an 8500 with 384MB of RAM. The issues are less performance (while video performance won't be great), but more in terms of its setup and install.

With this machine, it has incomplete open firmware, thus requiring an installer and patches that are fairly easy to get (XPostfacto from <a href="http://www.versiontracker.com)." target="_blank">www.versiontracker.com).</a> Then the caveats of installing.

You need to be sure your partition that you install the OSX onto is in the first 8GB of a drive that's connected to the main internal SCSI bus. I've heard of people who may have gotten it working, but I never had any luck trying anything else. If you have the apple-OEM scsi card you may have luck with it, if you patch its firmware. The 8GB limitation is due to the firmware of your machine and no other reason.

Any additional drives, partitions and drivespace should be fine (and can be larger than 8GB). They will be available for use after the install with OSX. Make sure your disks are formatted with the latest DriveSetup from Apple, or the latest OSX supported 3rd party disk formatting utility.

When it comes right down to it though, I am likely going to install YellowDogLinux 2.3 on my 8500. The overhead for OSX is just a bit much, and you can get a 'classic compatibility' through Mac-on-Linux which is preinstalled with many Linux distros.

You'll get a little better performance, and less 'overhead' when you can drop out Xwindows and run just the CLI. That would be my overall preference and suggestion - use YellowDog Linux!

good luck!
     
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Jul 5, 2002, 01:07 PM
 
bluedog's advice is much better than mine, but I'm going to take a different angle.

the Linux and Unix administrators that I work around have typically disuaded anyone from putting Yellowdog or any other PPC version of Linux on Mac hardware becuase of the specialization and interdependancy the hardware and native OS have for each other.

The point is that Mac hardware, when installing a straight up linux distribution, is only partly used. Basically the main pieces of the hardware are used, video, netowrk, IDE, SCSI, sound. But the lowest level stuff and the very customer port manipulation and management are basically ignored by Linux. As such they have expressed feelings that it is a waste of hardware to run Linux.
     
   
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