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Mar 28, 2002, 03:09 AM
 
I have an old 6100 that runs a very low traffic web page, I'm thinking of running NetBSD on it. But I'm wondering if I can still connect to my router with BSD running. The Mac is connected via a local talk network. And assuming I still can get this mac in the internet that way, like MacOS does, what about file sharing? Can I connect to this Mac at all or is my only option to run FTP on it?
     
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Mar 28, 2002, 09:37 AM
 
The 6100 had an AAUI ethernet port available (10BaseT) that would work fine for you. All you need is the AAUI to RJ45 interface. These 'dongles' can be had for about $15-20 online or look at your local apple vendor (one that deals with new and older hardware preferrably) and ask them about getting one.

I have a 7100, and it runs fine as a server with MkLinux through the port. It plugs into my ethernet hub, then to a router without a hitch.

You say you're running a server now through localtalk? Do you have a software bridge to route the internet TCP/IP packets onto MacIP? If its a hardware bridge you may not have the ability to use the localtalk interface ability that you get when running a MacOS on the hardware.

I didn't know NetBSD worked on this class of a machine. I thought you needed an openfirmware available mac (and these machines have a sort of pre-openfirmware, firmware). At least for the PPC version. There are 68k versions that work on even older hardware.

Good luck, and I'm off to check the specs required for NetBSD!
------------------------------------------------- http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html

Looks like its still unsupported. An alternative is to try and use MkLinux as a springboard and then get the monolithic linux working by replacing the kernel with a few supplied here.

Other distributions may work, I just think they'd have to be manually installed (not for the faint of heart) and impractical for this age of hardware.

Look at:
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/

[ 03-28-2002: Message edited by: bluedog ]
     
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Apr 12, 2002, 10:29 AM
 
Another link for Linux on NuBus Macs:
http://nubus.tuxppc.org/

Maybe you check out Yellow Dog Linux by Terra Soft:
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

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May 12, 2002, 05:36 AM
 
Sounds to me like your question is simple. "Is Appletalk somehow supported on NetBSD because I want to do native Appletalk filesharing?" The answer is no and yes.

No, I don't believe that any BSD or Linux distribution supports Appletalk out of the box. But there is a product called netatalk which will allow you to set up any Linux system to speak Appletalk. It requires a lot of setup and is not for the faint of heart, but once it is running it is very stable and requires no administration. I'm not sure if it is available for BSD or if it can be compiled for BSD. Keep in mind I'm not an active unix-like server administrator.
     
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May 12, 2002, 12:26 PM
 
Finally, the answer I was looking for, a little late though :-)
     
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May 18, 2002, 02:11 AM
 
Netatalk has been available for NetBSD and the other BSDs for years.

netatalk - the AppleTalk Protocol Suite for Unix http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/

SourceForge: Project: netatalk http://sourceforge.net/projects/netatalk

Of course, it is also available for Linux (and Sun Solaris).

Most recent version is v1.5.3.1, dated March 29, 2002.

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Walter.
     
   
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