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How do I network in System 7.1?
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Jan 19, 2002, 11:56 AM
 
OK, I've got a working network card in my Performa 550 (30,000 kHz '030 processor baby!) and I can't seem to figure out how to connect to a shared drive on my Powerbook running OSX. Can it be done?

I couldn't find any kind of TCP/IP setup or "Connect to server" command in System 7.1. How do I do it? AppleTalk doesn't detect the Performa in OSX.

I want to back this machine up before I install 7.6.1. How do I do it?
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Jan 19, 2002, 01:51 PM
 
OS 7.5.5 is free. Get it and install it. http://www.info.apple.com/support/ol...twarelist.html

I have older web apps running (Fetch).
To see the X computer from the Performa, I use ftp or a web page served by OS X ... way easy and reliable. I've read that you can buy a third party app for older Macs to connect to a computer running X (TCP/IP): http://www2.opendoor.com/ShareWay/gateway.html
Why spend money when you can do a server in X for free
(And maybe Apple will improve file sharing between older Macs and those running X?!)

Set up Users/Groups on the Performa,, and violå, you can mount shared volumes with OS X (select Appletalk in the Connect To Server window on your X computer). This works fine for me.

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Jan 19, 2002, 02:15 PM
 
OK, I have 7.6.1, but I might have to delete some stuff to make room for an install. (120MB hard disk is nearly full!).

So what you're saying is it can't be done in 7.1, right?
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Jan 19, 2002, 02:37 PM
 
If you jsut turn file sharing on in sharing or file sharing or whatever that oens called, and then turn appletalk on and set it to your ethernet card via whichever control panel that is (i forget, i have a P550 on 7.1 once) then you should be able to connect to it with your G4 using connect to > AppelTalk
     
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Jan 19, 2002, 03:23 PM
 
I had file sharing on, had the drive shared, and had appletalk on, but could not detect the 550 via the Appletalk "connect to server" search.

There was no way to set the IP of the 550. I just upgraded to 7.6.1 and I am about to test it. I'll let you know what happens.
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Jan 19, 2002, 06:45 PM
 
7.1 doesn't have TCP/IP unless you add it (via MacTCP). But you should be able to see the shares from OS X 10.1 (10.0 won't cut it). Either that, or log onto the OS X share from 7.1.

Also, remember that on any machine with a Printer port, AppleTalk will default to that port, not ethernet, so you may need to go to the old Network control panel and set it appropriately.

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Jan 19, 2002, 11:31 PM
 
Yeah, I noticed that lack of TCP support. I just installed 7.6.1 and got it to work. OSX can see the Performa, but I have no idea how to get the Performa to connect to OSX (there's no network browser!).

What app would I use to see shares on the OSX machine?
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Jan 20, 2002, 05:48 AM
 
Originally posted by VRL:
<STRONG>I have older web apps running (Fetch).
To see the X computer from the Performa, I use ftp or a web page served by OS X ... way easy and reliable. I've read that you can buy a third party app for older Macs to connect to a computer running X (TCP/IP): http://www2.opendoor.com/ShareWay/gateway.html
Why spend money when you can do a server in X for free
[ 01-19-2002: Message edited by: VRL ]</STRONG>
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Jan 20, 2002, 07:13 AM
 
Originally posted by Dan Szwarc:
<STRONG>Yeah, I noticed that lack of TCP support. I just installed 7.6.1 and got it to work. OSX can see the Performa, but I have no idea how to get the Performa to connect to OSX (there's no network browser!).

What app would I use to see shares on the OSX machine?</STRONG>
Go to the Choose located under the Apple Menu. Go to appleshare I think it is, and then you should see a list. if not you can manually enter in an IP (i think)
     
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Jan 21, 2002, 09:20 PM
 
Yeah, I noticed that lack of TCP support. I just installed 7.6.1 and got it to work. OSX can see the Performa, but I have no idea how to get the Performa to connect to OSX (there's no network browser!).

What app would I use to see shares on the OSX machine?
Did you try the Chooser?

PS: VRL, gotta love apple's excuse for a garbage dump. Finding anything in that mile-high tower o' text has always been quite a challenge.-Some interesting things in there though.
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Jan 24, 2002, 09:03 PM
 
Originally posted by vasu:
<STRONG>

Go to the Choose located under the Apple Menu. Go to appleshare I think it is, and then you should see a list. if not you can manually enter in an IP (i think)</STRONG>
Entering an IP number in Chooser for connecting to a server was not available in OS 7.6 or 8.1. It was present just from OS 8.6 and up (maybe 8.5 which I did not use).

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Jan 27, 2002, 09:23 PM
 
try using a ftp server or a hotline client/server .
     
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Feb 23, 2002, 07:40 PM
 
Why can't you just use straight up AppleTalk? OS 10 supports it and that would simplify all of your problems.

Also, the newest version of the AppleShare client has the ability to input an IP. You'll want to download this from Apple and apply it to your 550, that will give you the dialogue box to enter an IP address.

AppleShare IP 6 has copies of the newest client available on the install disk so that clients on a network where ASIP exists can connect via IP or Appletalk. This is provided because it is possible with ASIP to not communicate via Appletalk at all.

But I would really look into making sure that your OS 10 box is actively speaking and looking for AppleTalk servers.
     
   
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