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horrorbiz · May 21, 2003, 01:42 AM

Without starting a war..heh..I am curious who has purchased Core Cribs and are you happy with your purchase? I am still debating getting one. Thank you for any information. Anyone who insists it is a scam without information need not post. I simply want to hear from actual people who have purchased one.

terrancew_hod · May 21, 2003, 05:11 PM

I received my box on Tuesday of this week. Everything was packed pretty well. They shipped the power supply and 1GHz separately but it all arrived on the same day. I took pictures of the case and the insides to post on my site.

Right now I'm in the process of putting it together (Installing additional fans, powersupply; painting my DVD-R to match the black case I got). I still have to wait on my Radeon 8500 that's coming in on Friday though.

So far I'm happy with my purchase, especially since I don't have to worry about wiring the motherboard with the case.

You might try heading to the forum at 2khappyware.com and asking the same question there...Once I finish I'll post my there.

Terrance

digi-j · May 21, 2003, 06:54 PM

post count... 18.

Does it have an open hole in the back where the USB and firewire ports are?

kupan787 · May 21, 2003, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by digi-j:
post count... 18.

If I said I got one, and it ran great, would that be better, since my post count is higher?

I knew it couldn't be long before digi-j jumped into this thread

terrancew_hod · May 21, 2003, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by kupan787:
If I said I got one, and it ran great, would that be better, since my post count is higher?

I knew it couldn't be long before digi-j jumped into this thread

LOL...

digi-j, can you keep it together this time...stay on topic, horrorbiz said those that have a crib, not those who are a crab...:-)

Since you don't have one, this conversation is probably not for you.

Terrance

gizzard · May 21, 2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by digi-j:
post count... 18.

Does it have an open hole in the back where the USB and firewire ports are?

Post count 67, and still a troll.

Staatkunde · May 21, 2003, 09:47 PM

I received mine a few weeks ago horrobiz, I've not had a problem with it since I figured out I stuck some older ram in it. I've started a website where I post CoreCrib info if your interested. Links to reviews by lowendmac.com and applelink.com were posted today.

CoreCrib webpage

Check out the CoreCrib forums for lots of helpful information. Terrance and I post there regularly.

CoreCrib Forums

digi-j · May 22, 2003, 02:05 AM

oh I see, sidestep the question and attack me.

Scotttheking · May 22, 2003, 02:12 AM

digi-j, please stop posting in this thread and other like it

terrancew_hod · May 22, 2003, 06:55 AM

I'm a little closer to finishing (went out partying last night), but for those who wanted a simple solution to the backplate issue, I made a simple template using a thicker, flexible plastic, an xacto knife, and tracing paper. Of course it's not the best (I'm not an artist), but it does cover the back and keeps the dust out.

Not the best option, but it works for me. I took some pictures (I just need to paint it) which I'll post on my site later. I'll also scan the template and make it available for some to try. If anyone is interested here I can let you know. Or check the corecrib forums.

But I'm enjoying putting it together. If you wanted to mod your own mac, it a pretty good solution.

Now for putting the lighted IDE cables in the box before I go to work...

Terrance

digi-j · May 22, 2003, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Scotttheking:
digi-j, please stop posting in this thread and other like it

Moderator eh? All I asked is a simple question. I don't see you saying anything to the people that make personal attacks against me. Do your job in an unbiased way or quit.

digi-j · May 22, 2003, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by terrancew_hod:
I made a simple template using a thicker, flexible plastic, an xacto knife, and tracing paper. Of course it's not the best (I'm not an artist), but it does cover the back and keeps the dust out.

Where did you get the plastic? Another option would be getting a thin piece of sheet metal from a hardware store and cutting it and drilling it. Shouldn't take more than an hour if you have the tools.

terrancew_hod · May 22, 2003, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by digi-j:
Where did you get the plastic? Another option would be getting a thin piece of sheet metal from a hardware store and cutting it and drilling it. Shouldn't take more than an hour if you have the tools.

I cut the plastic from a organizer I saw on impulse at an art store getting spray paint for the DVD-R drive. It was a little thicker that the metal backplate and easier to work with. I didn't have the tools to cut metal so I opted for this. Of course I could go the metal route later since I have the template to work with.

digi-j · May 22, 2003, 04:23 PM

I bet a person with the tools could make them for Core for a few $$$

Lateralus · May 22, 2003, 04:43 PM

Digi-J:

Why is it that you cannot listen to the moderator and leave? The fact that you had to be spoken to by a moderator at all should be enough to make you shut up for a while and think about your behavior here at MacNN.

And stop with this mascarade of yours. Nobody asked you to be the 'ripoff-police'. If anybody wanted or cared about your advice, they would ask you for it, which no one has done.

So, rather than sit here arguing and yelling at everybody, why dont you just leave? Dont even respond to this post, just take into account that you are causing problems, and leave. Please.

terrancew_hod · May 22, 2003, 04:55 PM

I think the company is open for suggestions, I think they explored having a company cut the backplates, but the costs for a production run was extremely high. Of course they're open for suggestions; so if someone knows of a company or a person willing to do it, they could contact the owner.

But I solved my immediate need to reduce the amount of dust coming in. But whether someone wants to do something like this, or if this affects their decision, would be their choice.

digi-j · May 23, 2003, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by PowerMacMan:

So, rather than sit here arguing and yelling at everybody, why dont you just leave? Dont even respond to this post, just take into account that you are causing problems, and leave. Please. [/B]

thank you for taking the time to attack me, hypocrite. where have I attacked the core crib in this thread? as you can see, the mods will slam me because they don't like my opinion of a business when I could potentially be saving people money, but when people like you make personal attacks where are they? moderators should be unbiased, and clearly they are not doing their job.

kupan787 · May 23, 2003, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by digi-j:
thank you for taking the time to attack me, hypocrite. where have I attacked the core crib in this thread? as you can see, the mods will slam me because they don't like my opinion of a business when I could potentially be saving people money, but when people like you make personal attacks where are they? moderators should be unbiased, and clearly they are not doing their job.

I must say, aside from your first few posts in this thread, you are doing much better. Making some good suggestions, and ideas. However, this thread is starting to spiral away from the original topic (PowerMacMan, you didn't help with the attack...), so lets try and swing it back.

Has anyone received a shipment of a corecrib with the new case? How is it? I hope these guys do well, and the corebox/ibox take off, as it would be the perfect upgrade for my Mom. She has a sawtooth I coudl salvege most of the parts from, and the upgraded processor would be great for her!

terrancew_hod · May 23, 2003, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by kupan787:

Has anyone received a shipment of a corecrib with the new case? How is it?

I finished installing everything on my crib and got it to boot. I installed OS 9.1 and I'll upgrade it to 9.2 tomorrow. I'm waiting on my ATI 8500 to arrive; then I'll upgrade to OS X. This is my configuration:

Corecrib kit with Gigabit Ethernet motherboard and Apple ADC-compatible power supply
1GHz processor
512MB ram
60gig western digital 7200 RPM drive.
Pioneer DVD-R 105 drive.
Seagate DDS-3 tape backup
Adaptec 2930 SCSI card
Lighted cables and fans
USB/Firewire/Temp control front panel
Apple pro keyboard
Logitech MX500 mouse
Geforce 2MX card to be upgraded to ATI 8500.

I got a few parts lying around the house; others I bought.

The processor was from GigaDesigns, which has a fan mounted on the processor. I'm letting it run all night as part of a burn-in period. So far, I like my box; it's a lot more responsive than my old Powermac 8500.

Hopefully I'll finish all the install and update the site with a few pictures I took.

Terrance

Simon · 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Sotttheking:
digi-j, please stop posting in this thread and other like it

Originally posted by digi-j:
Moderator eh? All I asked is a simple question. I don't see you saying anything to the people that make personal attacks against me. Do your job in an unbiased way or quit.

Damn. Scott, you are indeed an incapable mod and an utter miscast here!

digi-j may have annoyed you and others in other threads. He may have gone over the top. He may be wrong.

So what? That's all not the point here. In this thread he didn't do one single no-no. He behaved and asked an absolutely appropriate question.

Now, what did he get? One or two sensible responses and a boat-load of sh!t from some others. And after this, what does Scott-the-mod-who-so-badly-wants-to-be-the-king do? You diss him instead of telling the other guys to back down.

Independent from digi-j's contributions, you have proven to be absolutely not capable of moderating.

I suggest you apologize and resign. You are just not up to the job.

[Edit: spelling]

terrancew_hod · May 23, 2003, 07:11 AM

Now, now kids... Can't we all get along?

We're getting slightly off topic here. But I think Scott's position was more of "no more bashing in the corecrib threads". I kinda saw it almost becoming a bashing thread then scott chimed in and digi-j posts got more in line with the topic.

As long as someone's post deals with the current topic I don't have a problem with it. But I've seen how easy it is to steer off topic on this board...

Now with that said, horrorbiz, is any of the relevant stuff helpful?

Terrance

Lateralus · May 23, 2003, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by kupan787:
(PowerMacMan, you didn't help with the attack...)

I did not make an attack, in fact I was somewhat polite.

Just because Digi used the word 'attack' doesnt mean you have to.

rstevens · May 23, 2003, 10:58 AM

more non-partisan info please! i am debating one as well.

horrorbiz · May 23, 2003, 01:12 PM

Haha.. well the relevant stuff was pretty helpful, thanks alot.

Hello Mr R Stevens

horrorbiz · May 24, 2003, 11:34 PM

ok.... well it's getting pretty close to "ordering-a-core-crib-time"..

Any last advice or opinions?

...or screams of SCAMS! *wink

JB72 · May 25, 2003, 01:07 AM

Who would have thought that this topic would raise so much animosity?

terrancew_hod · May 26, 2003, 06:58 AM

I posted a few pics of my completed box on the Corecrib forum for those who want to take a look.

Simon · May 26, 2003, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by terrancew_hod:
I posted a few pics of my completed box on the Corecrib forum for those who want to take a look.

Terrance, thanks for the pictures. The case is not quite my taste, but if it runs OS X well and it's cheap that's fine with me.

I'm wondering about a couple of things:

- Is that display/fornt-port-thing in the third 5.25" bay an add-on or did it come with the case default?

- What's the display for in the 5.25" bay? Temp display? Did the case come with temp sensors?

- Did you get the front ports "for free" or did you have to buy an additional PCI card? As far as I know Apple motherboards don't have internal USB and FW so I was wondering how you got those front mounted ones...

- What are those cables going into the top PCI slot?

- Does the PS do 110V and 220V? Is it auto-sensing?

- Is the transparent side window an option? If I have all those flat cables and my normally pretty messy interiors I'd prefer the box closed so that nobody sees the mess.

- What did you pay? What did you get in the kit? What's add-on? At what additional cost? I know you already posted some specs, but it's not quite clear to me what was included in the Core Crib kit and what was added by you.

Thanks in advance.

terrancew_hod · May 26, 2003, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Simon:
Is that display/fornt-port-thing in the third 5.25" bay an add-on or did it come with the case default?

It's an add-on that I got; at the time i got a different case than the default case. The case didn't have all the front ports accessable so I purchased one.

- What's the display for in the 5.25" bay? Temp display? Did the case come with temp sensors?

It's the temp sensor that came with the front usb/firewire panel.

- What are those cables going into the top PCI slot?

The front usb/firewire panel uses pass-thru cables to the back. That way I could run the cable out of the back through the pci slot. The front panel kit included the slot brace so the pci slot used would not be fully open.

- Does the PS do 110V and 220V? Is it auto-sensing?

Don't know, but it's an apple power supply, so whatever that does, it does...

- Is the transparent side window an option? If I have all those flat cables and my normally pretty messy interiors I'd prefer the box closed so that nobody sees the mess.

Yeah it's an option. It looks better than my camera took it. The lighted IDE cables and fans hides the mess, but of course a flash shows all. Also I'm looking for a better rounded scsi cable. If found a blue and grey, but I'm still looking for a clear one, hence the flat cable.

- What did you pay? What did you get in the kit? What's add-on? At what additional cost? I know you already posted some specs, but it's not quite clear to me what was included in the Core Crib kit and what was added by you.

The kit included the case, motherboard and the power supply. There were a few different choices on the case. I bought the kit with a 1GHz processor (gigadesigns) for $819. BTW the price went up due to switching to Apple powersupply, but since I ordered my before that time Core upgraded mine for free.

From that I added the hard drives (one 60gig and one 40Gig), the scsi card (had one lying around), Pioneer DVD-R 105, a tape backup from a server I got from an old job, front usb/firewire panel, Radeon 8500, usb card, cables and fans. And I forgot the 512MB RAM.

I think the total purchase was less than $1400. Of course some could say I would have gotten a Powermac--but then I wouldn't have gotten the DVD-R or the radeon 8500 for that price. The iMac is around that price too but then I couldn't expand it. Not to mention the 100gigs of hard drive space too (i bought another 60 on impulse).

The machine runs great and I still have room inside to expand it. It may not look like a mac, but it serves my needs.

Hope that answered your questions...

Terrance

Simon · May 26, 2003, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by terrancew_hod:
Hope that answered your questions...

Yes.

Thanks for the info!

Lateralus · May 26, 2003, 11:02 PM

Could you link us directly to the pictures? Because, the forums you are hosting them on are down.

terrancew_hod · May 27, 2003, 06:27 AM

I'll try to put them on my own little website (please be gentle...

)...I'll send a email to their customer service about their forum too.

Too bad I can't attach them here...save ya a trip...

terrancew_hod · May 27, 2003, 07:35 AM

I put the pics on my personal website. 5000 hits and that's all she gets this week. Maybe I won't be such a cheapskate and get some real web space.

Simon · May 27, 2003, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by terrancew_hod:
I put the pics on my personal website. 5000 hits and that's all she gets this week. Maybe I won't be such a cheapskate and get some real web space.

Nice.

If you want I could host the page on our lab web server for a while. I think our servers should be able to take some additional load.

terrancew_hod · May 27, 2003, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Simon:
If you want I could host the page on our lab web server for a while. I think our servers should be able to take some additional load.

Great!!!

Just email me at housedeb@bellsouth.net with the details...

I'm doing the work thing now, but I can take care of it tonight...

Terrance

Simon · May 28, 2003, 01:51 PM

OK, I've put up a little mirror for Terrance's CoreCrib Pics on one of our lab servers. That should quite take some hits.

You can find it here.

Have fun.

horrorbiz · May 29, 2003, 12:56 AM

terrancew_hod,
Thanks for all the quick responses and ample information.. The pics were great too. You should start getting commison from 2khappyware haha..

saru boy · May 29, 2003, 01:09 PM

Interesting tidbit from Macintouch today:

Rory Bolzer writes about problems getting a CoreCrib computer, which is a "remanufactured" Mac system that received quite a bit of publicity last month:

Has anyone else had problems receiving an order from Core Computers (John Fraser)? I sent in a check payment on April 21st and the check cleared on April 30th. John asked for shipping address confirmation on April 30th and I responded on May 4th. I e-mailed him about not receiving the order (a CoreCrib System Kit - G4 motherboard and powersupply in a case - no processor; no drives etc) on May 13th and he wrote back:

Wow. I hadn't heard anything. I sent your item to shipper Friday May 5nd and it should have already arrived of course. That really concerns me. (probabably more for you!)

Then on May 15th He wrote:

You have been shipped a new unit at the expense of my shippers insurance. It's a new operation and I don't think he was quite ready to take on the task of shipping 20 of these/day. We've already had shippments going to wrong addy etc and he luckily took the heat. I will have tracking tomorrow... It went Airborne!

It is now May 28th and I have not yet received my order; nor have I received responses to my e-mails for tracking/status updates. I hope this is just a glitch but it is disturbing.

terrancew_hod · May 29, 2003, 05:26 PM

I think one of the growing pain problems that they are having is with the ordering/shipping process. I think there are issues with the shipping company that he is using. They shipped my order to the wrong address at first, but I contacted John at core and after a few emails he got everything straightened out. I mentioned in an email that all the customization options should be available from the order screen to cut down on the amount of paper that's he's juggling with the emails...the order contains all the necessary information.

Hopefully they'll get all that straightened out soon. I also wondered if the guy had customized his order (such as getting a different box than the default), if so that may be the weak part in the process, since I have a different box as well.

I'm guessing he might be a bit overwhelmed with orders. He may have to take a step back and get the processes together.

Terrance

digi-j · May 30, 2003, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by saru boy:

I sent in a check payment on April 21st and the check cleared on April 30th.... It is now May 28th and I have not yet received my order; nor have I received responses to my e-mails for tracking/status updates. I hope this is just a glitch but it is disturbing.

hmmm. why am I not surprised? The CoreCrib forums have also been down for over a week now. Nice.

And for the photos- $1400 invested in a PC case housing a 1GHz upgrade card... very poor investment when a NEW PowerMac 1 GHz with all of the benefits of a NEW Apple computer is only $100 more. As a possible alternative to the PowerMac, a $100 in savings while losing Firewire 800, Airport Extreme card, Warranty, The awesome style, workmanship and case and even better resale value... You could have signed up for ADC and got the 1 GHz for $1200 or the dual 1.25 GHz PowerMac for $1600.

but hey, if you're happy...

terrancew_hod · May 31, 2003, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by digi-j:
hmmm. why am I not surprised? The CoreCrib forums have also been down for over a week now. Nice.

And for the photos- $1400 invested in a PC case housing a 1GHz upgrade card... very poor investment when a NEW PowerMac 1 GHz with all of the benefits of a NEW Apple computer is only $100 more. As a possible alternative to the PowerMac, a $100 in savings while losing Firewire 800, Airport Extreme card, Warranty, The awesome style, workmanship and case and even better resale value... You could have signed up for ADC and got the 1 GHz for $1200 or the dual 1.25 GHz PowerMac for $1600.

but hey, if you're happy...

You just can't let it go can you? And how much would have cost me to get the DVD-R and the ATI 8500 in that powermac? You left that out of the post...wouldn't have been the $1400, wouldn't it?

And I'm not going to do your dishonest stunts for the ADC discount...you should be ashamed.

I got my money's worth. It's expandable, it was reasonable for all the options i got on it...I can tell the temp from the front panel, I can plug usb and firewire from the front; I made a backup of my system from my tape backup that was installed internally. Can you do that on yours? I didn't think so...

If I want, i can install more drives with an ATA 100 card I have and the scsi card as well. I don't need firewire 800, I don't use airport since I already have a wireless access point that i'm using for a client into my wireless network. I build my own machines so I don't need an extended warranty other than the ones that go with the equipment I bought. If something breaks, I can fix it or replace it myself. From the whiny tone of your post, you probably need it...

This is a matter of choice; once again, if you don't like it, go post your dribble somewhere else...you keep repeating the same tired things over and over...I'd think you get tired by now...I definitely am tired of you trying to come for me...

And i emailed core about the forum down and they responded saying that they are in the process of putting a more stable forum up; the current forum will be read-only until then...

Terrance

digi-j · May 31, 2003, 12:23 AM

someone with the most basic understanding of the internet could get a web forum up and running in a matter of minutes. The fact that it's been down for a VERY long time shows that Core's only form of customer service is a joke and is probably down due to numerous complaints.

it's also obvious you are a friend/employee of CoreCrap and are one of the rare few that go out of their way to promote their products on this forum.

at best, you are a fool for spending $1400 on used parts and a PC case and I laugh at you.

Mac Zealot · May 31, 2003, 01:16 AM

Come on. Look, take it with a grain of salt.

If it's real. GOOD. Like I said, not surprised if it is. IT IS POSSIBLE.

Anyway, Those computers, while great, aren't too great of a bargain. However, it's not very respectful OR respectable to go flaming people.

One thing I've found from the switch almost 2 years ago is some of you hardcore mac zealots are blindly flaming people.. if they want to go non apple let them!!!

at least they're not buying P4s with windows XP or something right? What's this need for it to have an apple logo?

Simon · May 31, 2003, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by digi-j:
at best, you are a fool for spending $1400 on used parts and a PC case and I laugh at you.

And that digi-j was completely uncalled for. I find it a rather childish remark.

If this was the right machine for terrancew_hod then it's fine. If it isn't for you, then get a PowerMac and that will also be fine.

But please, why all this Ayatollah-style flaming? All that's important is if these machines exist in numbers, if buying them works and if yes, what they have inside. The rest is just religious.

In that sense, give us more Crib info.

terrancew_hod · May 31, 2003, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by digi-j:
at best, you are a fool for spending $1400 on used parts and a PC case and I laugh at you.

Well judging from content, tone and style of your previous posts, I guess you know what you are talking about...

I'm happy with my purchase and that's all that matters. I put together a system that would have cost me at least $2600 from apple with the options I wanted. That's not foolish, that's doing my homework.

My friends that saw my box call it 'Macinstein' which is ok, because they also think it's cool. This is my way of switching; don't you think the operating system is a much better issue than the box it came in? If not, then you are the fool for nitpicking. I'm saving for a new 970 powerbook when it debuts next year; why would I plunk down a lot of money for a powermac now that in a few weeks a new processor will put it to shame? Not to mention, there has not been any significant leaps in technology in at least 18 months. So the speed of my box is not that far off from yours that you paid full price for (or if you did the shameful lying stunt of using the ADC to get it). Besides this is a personal machine not a workhorse.

And for the last time I'm not in 'cahoots' with Core computers. If this was a bad purchase, I would have said so; this is my $1400 that I paid for. I sent an email to them asking about the forum and they gave me a reply. John at Core has been very helpful with getting my order, even with the shipping problems I've had. I think he's (as well as the shipper) been overwhelmed with the response of the Corecrib; so obviously there are people who feel the same way I do about putting together a custom solution.

But once again, you are off topic. If you have something of value to add to this discussion other than the unwarranted childish flames, do so. Otherwise, do us all a favor and take your hands off the keyboard, turn off your machine and find something else to do...

Why do I have to keep repeating myself?

Terrance

Simon · May 31, 2003, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by terrancew_hod:
I think he's (as well as the shipper) been overwhelmed with the response of the Corecrib; so obviously there are people who feel the same way I do about putting together a custom solution.

This was something I wanted to ask already. Does this guy have even the slightest chance of keeping up? Judging from all the buzz the Cribs have generated here there must be dozens of orders going in every day. I guess you need at least (and even if you're very quick and skilled) about 10-15 min to put together a complete box and then he claims to even check them. So he can't do more than about 35 machines a day. At the max. Does this guy have support?

Or is he basically just trying to build up and prove the concept and then get a company (maybe a Mac dealer or a hardware store) to buy up his idea/firm?

If I order now, how long would I have to wait? I could imagine that he has a backlog of hundreds of machines.

Does anybody here have a pending order?

terrancew_hod · May 31, 2003, 09:48 AM

I can't really answer that, but I think I was probably one of the first batches to go out. He may be at the point of needing to hire some extra help for putting the boxes out, someone to work with the customer service aspects, and someone to work with the webpage/forum updates. It's a small operation, so it's probably one of the growing pains.

If you looked at the history of the project, it was just a proof of concept to see if he could do it. Maybe the response he got may show that there's a market for a kit such as this.

I know there are probably issues with the ordering/shipping process; where a lot of custom information is sent through emails rather than being on the order itself. Until they get this minor issue taken care of, it might not be realistic to expect the box within 2 weeks.

Terrance

digi-j · May 31, 2003, 01:00 PM

John at Core has been very helpful with getting my order, even with the shipping problems I've had. I think he's (as well as the shipper) been overwhelmed with the response of the Corecrib

Heh, so you admit to shipping problems too eh? I'd like to know who this "shipper" is. Why not just set up a UPS account in 1 minute and schedule a daily pick-up? Thousands of businesses around the globe do it every day and it's cheap and fast. Even if he sent it USPS, FedEX, Airborne Express, etc. that still would be very fast. If someone cashes your check and a month later you have NOTHING, that's obviously a huge problem!

Reason #487 to buy a PowerMac instead of a CoreCrib: I bought my dual 1.25 GHz PowerMac for $1600 online and it was AT MY DOOR in two days without paying for shipping.

digi-j · May 31, 2003, 01:07 PM

I see the Core forums are back up. They are rather dead, and the topics are rather dominated by terrancew_hod and Staatkunde. Other than them, there is not a whole lot posted about reviews or pictures.

Trouble keeping up with demand? I don't think so. Look at this thread! How many people have posted pics other than the resident Core employee? NONE!

terrancew_hod · May 31, 2003, 05:30 PM

Why are you so concerned about this anyway? Obviously nothing better to do.

And the forum is not dominated by me. It's probably because I'm the last one that posted before it went down, kinda like you trying to dominate this thread with your flaming...

You bought a powermac; good for you. I bought a corecrib; good for me. But this is not a thread about why you should buy one over another. This is about information on a machine capable of running the Mac OS for a cheaper cost. Since you don't have one, you don't have anything valuable to say. So instead you flame needlessly. And say the same things over and over and over...

And if I was an employee, i haven't received my check yet...

You don't like the corecrib. You made that known...now go find something else to do...

Terrance