[kupan787]

Well, I ordered my machine minutes after the keynote. I was told on the phone it would ship in August. Nope, that aint happening. I didn't mind when large educational institutions started getting machines, that is understandable. However, when I can walk into an Apple store, pick up the EXACT machine I preorderded, and walk out before my PREORDERED system is ready for me, that is ridiculous. Obviously Apple has no care for its loyal customer base that preorders machines. They know they can get more money by selling us machines earlier and not shipping them, and then selling machines in stores they could have shipped to us!

But whatever, I have my G5 now

[osxisfun]

1.8?

[Immortal K-Mart Employee]

This is exactly why I don't preorder things. You can always walk into a store and pick it up sooner.

[KeilwerthSX90R]

Also unless ordering the G5 was different than other things I have ordered from them you can cancel the order up until the time it ships. Why not just cancel the order and walk in and pick one up?

[kupan787]

Originally posted by KeilwerthSX90R:
Also unless ordering the G5 was different than other things I have ordered from them you can cancel the order up until the time it ships. Why not just cancel the order and walk in and pick one up?

That is what I did. I canceld my 1.8 order, and walked in to pick up a machine. I just find it ridiculous. If I preorder something, that means I should be one of the first to get them. If I preorder a PS2 from Toys-R-Us (for example) then someone shouldn't walk into toys-r-us and pick one up before I get mine.

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by kupan787:
That is what I did. I canceld my 1.8 order, and walked in to pick up a machine. I just find it ridiculous. If I preorder something, that means I should be one of the first to get them. If I preorder a PS2 from Toys-R-Us (for example) then someone shouldn't walk into toys-r-us and pick one up before I get mine.

OK, that's it...
Listen Jr., we're all weally, weally sowwy you got your wittle feewings hurt, but maybe mommy will take you back to Toys-R-Us and buy you another toy to pacify you. Now please stop bothering the adults with your inane whimperings.

[michaelb]

Originally posted by aaanorton:
Now please stop bothering the adults with your inane whimperings.

Yeah, like there's any adults around the forum! (Even amongst the 30 year olds.)

There are about as many adults here as there are girls...

[chrisutley]

You have posted here 353 times, live in San Jose, and didn't know that's how it works. I don't believe it.

Originally posted by kupan787:
Well, I ordered my machine minutes after the keynote. I was told on the phone it would ship in August. Nope, that aint happening. I didn't mind when large educational institutions started getting machines, that is understandable. However, when I can walk into an Apple store, pick up the EXACT machine I preorderded, and walk out before my PREORDERED system is ready for me, that is ridiculous. Obviously Apple has no care for its loyal customer base that preorders machines. They know they can get more money by selling us machines earlier and not shipping them, and then selling machines in stores they could have shipped to us!

But whatever, I have my G5 now

[kupan787]

Originally posted by aaanorton:
OK, that's it...
Listen Jr., we're all weally, weally sowwy you got your wittle feewings hurt, but maybe mommy will take you back to Toys-R-Us and buy you another toy to pacify you. Now please stop bothering the adults with your inane whimperings.

Haha, **** you.

I am actually not a baby, but a small time developer going to college (computer science degree, and am half way done!!). Unlike half you people here, my G5 will be put to good use. And I paid for it on my own, I am not some spoiled little kid...

The toys-r-us example was just that, an EXAMPLE. I remember a few years back when my friends mom preordered it for her son for christmas (or his birthday which ever it was). It just isn't right that when you preorder something, that Apple choose to make more money by shipping my machine to the Apple store to go out to Joe Appleuser.

Originally posted by chrisutley:
You have posted here 353 times, live in San Jose, and didn't know that's how it works. I don't believe it.

Which don't you believe, that I have posted here 350+ times, or that I live in San Jose

I love the weather here, but the cost of living is insane (2.15 for a gallon of regular gas, are you kidding me!!). I really want to live here after college, but I don't know how I will afford it.

2 years back, my brother preordered a 867 Quicksilver after the July keynote. It came in August, just like he was told. Why is this situation any different (expecially since they have a while extra month) So how should it work? Apple shoudl take preorders, and then ship out machines to stores to make even more sales? Then a few weeks later send out Apology notes saying the demand is greater than expected? But whatever, like I said I have my machine now (and canceld my order never planning to preorder from Apple again)

[hardcat1970]

Originally posted by kupan787:
That is what I did. I canceld my 1.8 order, and walked in to pick up a machine. I just find it ridiculous. If I preorder something, that means I should be one of the first to get them. If I preorder a PS2 from Toys-R-Us (for example) then someone shouldn't walk into toys-r-us and pick one up before I get mine.

i agree with you. I went to apple store in long island, nyc today and they have 3 1.8GHZ, and 2 1.6 GHZ available. I mean if i want it right away, i can have it. Just feel sorry for the guys that are waiting.

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by kupan787:
Haha, **** you.
It just isn't right that when you preorder something, that Apple choose to make more money by shipping my machine to the Apple store to go out to Joe Appleuser.

Clearly missing it.

[kupan787]

Originally posted by aaanorton:
Clearly missing it.

Perhaps I am, then care to enlighten us with your profound wisdom? Or do you not want to shower us mere mortals with your god-like speech (for fear of blowing up our heads, ala Dogma)?

[MindFad]

Life bees dat way sometimes.

[chrisutley]

This guy is going to put his machine to good use, unlike half the people here. Let's cut him some slack, he's making the world a better place.

[Agent69]

I swear, this happens with every product introduction.

[GeoMac]

Originally posted by kupan787:
Unlike half you people here, my G5 will be put to good use.

well gollllieee, us dummins wern just goint to yuse that dang silver contraption for de Quake, not none of dat smart stuff you be doin!

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by kupan787:
Perhaps I am, then care to enlighten us with your profound wisdom? Or do you not want to shower us mere mortals with your god-like speech (for fear of blowing up our heads, ala Dogma)?

OK, and I'll type slowly for you, so that it might sink in...

1. You whined and cried, because you didn't get what you WANTED, WHEN you wanted it.

2. I, through the magic of sarcasm, pointed out what an immature and useless point that was.

3. In response you said "It just isn't right that when you preorder something, that Apple choose to make more money by shipping my machine to the Apple store to go out to Joe Appleuser". Now, besides the fact that this is flatly wrong and makes no sense whatsoever, it also furthers my point. You see, you're countering my cry-baby claim by crying that it's "just not fair!". Well, little-one, when you grow up, you'll come to realize that that's often the way life is, crying about it will not change anything, nobody is out to get YOU and that you and your small problems are utterly insignificant.

[kupan787]

Originally posted by chrisutley:
This guy is going to put his machine to good use, unlike half the people here. Let's cut him some slack, he's making the world a better place.

Thanks

But I don't get you. I made a simpe statment, which I bet will stay true. Most of the people that are buying these (I saw them in the Apple Store) don't need it. they could get by with a 1.25 G4, or dual 1.25 G4.

I plan on this machine lasting me 3-4 years, and I need something that will last. The G5 I feel does. And for what I do, and plan on doing in life, this machine is what I need. It helps me to compile faster. It helps me render out in FCP faster. Converting my taped footage from DV to MPEG2 is faster. Burning to DVD, etc, etc. This machine will save me time in the long run and allow me to be more productive. I am not trying to save the world. Never said I was.

Originally posted by aaanorton:
You whined and cried, because you didn't get what you WANTED, WHEN you wanted it.

I guess. Maybe you didn't preorder a machine, and hence you don't understand. But I am a bit disapointed that someone could walk into a store and buy a machine before the peopel who preordered (read not jsut me) get ours.

3. In response you said "It just isn't right that when you preorder something, that Apple choose to make more money by shipping my machine to the Apple store to go out to Joe Appleuser". Now, besides the fact that this is flatly wrong and makes no sense whatsoever,

How is that wrong? Apple is shipping machines to stores that could (and in my opinion) should be going to peopel who preordered. Instead, Apple is trying to make an extra buck by stocking there shelves with G5s.

You see, you're countering my cry-baby claim by crying that it's "just not fair!". Well, little-one, when you grow up, you'll come to realize that that's often the way life is, crying about it will not change anything,

I am not crying. I might be whining, but that is only because the way things are happening is unfair.

nobody is out to get YOU

Lets see, I have been attacked by 4 people in this thread? I would say there are peopel out to get me

and that you and your small problems are utterly insignificant.

What the **** does that mean? I made a post here saying the current situation is unfair. My opinion. Yours is different, but the only way you can get your across is to attack me, and say my problems are small and utterly insignificant. I beg to differ, but you will just attack me further.

[Angus_D]

Although life is unfair, if we are discontented with our treatment we are able to exercise a variety of rights, such as complaining to them, telling others our experiences, and boycotting that company.

Saying "life is unfair" is a completely retarded thing to do. STEVE IS GOD! APPLE IS DOING YOU A FAVOUR BY NOT GIVING YOU YOUR COMPUTER! (Excuse me, let me just wipe the drool from my face)

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by kupan787:
But I don't get you. I made a simpe statment, which I bet will stay true. Most of the people that are buying these (I saw them in the Apple Store) don't need it. they could get by with a 1.25 G4, or dual 1.25 G4.

Right. You're so clearly more important and sophisticated than all the others. Again, you do my work for me.

How is that wrong? Apple is shipping machines to stores that could (and in my opinion) should be going to peopel who preordered. Instead, Apple is trying to make an extra buck by stocking there shelves with G5s.

Because, genius, "extra buck" implies that they got money once, and then again, hence extra. This simply is not the case. You never paid anything to Apple. All you did was (officially) request one. You do not get charged anything until your machine ships, so if Apple never made any money from your online order, they could not then make "extra" money for a store sale.

I am not crying. I might be whining, but that is only because the way things are happening is unfair.

Whining, crying, whatever. They're both just like Trix: for kids.

What the **** does that mean?

It means that the world does not revolve around you. Get used to it.

[idyll]

aaanorton tells it like it is.

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by Angus_D:
Although life is unfair, if we are discontented with our treatment we are able to exercise a variety of rights, such as complaining to them, telling others our experiences, and boycotting that company.

Or he could take his skirt off, like a man and simply cancel his order in protest. He could then buy from another manufacturer, one that respects ship dates more. Or he could cancel it and go into an Apple store and buy one there, since THAT'S WHERE THEY ALL ARE... Oh wait... He did do that, didn't he? So now he's just whining for attention. Because the world has wronged him. Boo-*******-hoo. He chose the cry-baby path. He could have looked at the situation, while setting up his new computer, and decided that his pre-order was simply to cover his bases, because he wanted one right away. Then when they became available in the store, common sense and initiative would dictate that he cancel the first order and GO GET ONE. But no, instead he went through all the same steps, but decided to BLAME someone for his unhappiness and discontentment.
What a bore. I have no patience for this.

Saying "life is unfair" is a completely retarded thing to do. STEVE IS GOD! APPLE IS DOING YOU A FAVOUR BY NOT GIVING YOU YOUR COMPUTER! (Excuse me, let me just wipe the drool from my face)

You lost me here. If you disagree with "life is unfair', then I hope that works out for you.
As far as the rest of that nonsense, I don't get it. Was that even addressed at me? Does it apply somehow?

[billybob128]

STEVE IS GOD! APPLE IS DOING YOU A FAVOUR BY NOT GIVING YOU YOUR COMPUTER!

contrary to popular belief steve is not a god just a mere mortal with a vision and the resources he needs to make that vision a reality

at first i saw this guys point but a few things hit me:
a)he is a COMPUTER student HALF way through his coures as he says but read his posts he either 1]cant spell. 2]cant type

b)how could he no wat the other people in the store were buying for did he no them personally? did he ask them the reason for their purchase?

i do not mean to attack this person as that would be rong but merely consider what he says before saying it

he is also just conveying a personal opinion and experiance that he has been flamed for and in that respect he does deserv some respect

[idyll]

Originally posted by billybob128:


i do not mean to attack this person as that would be rong but merely consider what he says before saying it

Rong. Grammar nazi

[riverfreak]

Originally posted by kupan787:
Haha, **** you.

I am actually not a baby, but a small time developer going to college (computer science degree, and am half way done!!). Unlike half you people here, my G5 will be put to good use. And I paid for it on my own, I am not some spoiled little kid...

Oh god, if I had a dime for every computer science half-way-done major who thought they knew everything about comp sci! No, writing HTML is not programming.


Let us know when you get your PhD in computer science. At that point, we'll ascertain if you're putting your machine to good use.

[Eriamjh]

I ahppen to think Apple should fill pre-orders before putting hem in stores.

HOWEVER, the end result here is the same. He went to the store and picked one up.

He got his G5.

He didn't cancel and go buy a Wintel machine.

What's sad is how impatient some people are. they want it NOW.

Me? I'm waiting for Rev. 2, but not because it's rev 2, but because my DP800 is still good enough for what I do.

[idyll]

Well, you have to understand that some people have sold their computers hoping that they would get their G5s early while others simply don't have a computer and are attending a school that requires them to have one. School has already started and a few people have to borrow their friends computer or go to the library.

[juanpacolopez]

Originally posted by aaanorton:
OK, and I'll type slowly for you, so that it might sink in...

1. You whined and cried, because you didn't get what you WANTED, WHEN you wanted it.

2. I, through the magic of sarcasm, pointed out what an immature and useless point that was.

3. In response you said "It just isn't right that when you preorder something, that Apple choose to make more money by shipping my machine to the Apple store to go out to Joe Appleuser". Now, besides the fact that this is flatly wrong and makes no sense whatsoever, it also furthers my point. You see, you're countering my cry-baby claim by crying that it's "just not fair!". Well, little-one, when you grow up, you'll come to realize that that's often the way life is, crying about it will not change anything, nobody is out to get YOU and that you and your small problems are utterly insignificant.

Actually, he had a very valid point. If he preorders a machine he should damn well get it before someone can walk into a store and pick one up because they have some IN STOCK (which should be shipped to fill the orders placed months ago).

Guess what, you think this guy is bad for wanting Apple to fullfill its obligations?...It's condescending old farts like you who give maturity a bad name. You tell someone not to complain because "everyone else has problems" essentially... guess what... EVERYONE ELSE BITCHES TOO! It's human nature to voice our distaste to others in search of empathy.

And while I'm ranting... while the poster himself might not be so significant in your eyes and granted, not getting a G5 preorder is pretty small potatoes; a blanket statement such as "you and your small problems are utterly insignificant" is assanine. What, you expect people to spend their time in a MAC forum discussing world hunger and such much more important issues? You should invert your own advice and "grow down" a little bit, age has obviously clouded your sense of respect for the opinions of others.

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by juanpacolopez:
Actually, he had a very valid point. If he preorders a machine he should damn well get it before someone can walk into a store and pick one up because they have some IN STOCK (which should be shipped to fill the orders placed months ago).

Why? Where does it say that when you pre-order, you'll damn well get it before someone can walk in a store and buy one? (here's a hint: nowhere)

Guess what, you think this guy is bad for wanting Apple to fullfill its obligations?...It's condescending old farts like you who give maturity a bad name. You tell someone not to complain because "everyone else has problems" essentially... guess what... EVERYONE ELSE BITCHES TOO! It's human nature to voice our distaste to others in search of empathy.

Wrong.
If you feel that it's human nature to bitch and moan, remind me to not spend time around the humans you associate with. And how do you know that Apple would not have "fulfilled its obligations"? The order was cancelled.

And while I'm ranting... while the poster himself might not be so significant in your eyes and granted, not getting a G5 preorder is pretty small potatoes; a blanket statement such as "you and your small problems are utterly insignificant" is assanine. What, you expect people to spend their time in a MAC forum discussing world hunger and such much more important issues? You should invert your own advice and "grow down" a little bit, age has obviously clouded your sense of respect for the opinions of others.

Whoa... you really turned the tables on me. Gosh, let me see if I can recover from that "grow down" comment.
Anyway, I don't expect anything from anybody. But if someone chooses to voice his juvenile, meaningless grievances in this PUBLIC forum, then I'm going to feel free to respond to them. If he doesn't want my response, then maybe he should have kept his trap zipped.
Now, let me "grow diagonal" here a moment. My "sense of respect" for bullsh!t of others is just fine, thank you very much. As always, I have no patience for it.

[idyll]

Just a question aaanorton. Would you please tell me what you get out of this? Just curious.

Thanks.

[aaanorton]

I'm always interested in how and why people try to defend defenseless positions: It's OK I'm a whiny cry-baby because...
Now, obviously anything that follows this is sunk, but this doesn't stop some.
Plus I'm a little bored on a holiday weekend, cuz I 'm home-bound, long story.
Answer your question?

[idyll]

Alrighty continue on. If I may ask one more, how old are you?

[osiris]

kupan787 is right to bitch...

If I pre-ordered anything I would fully expect to receive it before the stores do. That is the point of pre-ordering, to avoid all that mucky in store BS, +AND+ to have the dam thing first. It's excessive materialism, I'm sure, but some of the posters here just sound so retardedly jealous, or perhaps just bored. Whatever, kupan787 earned his whining rights.

[goMac]

I'm pissed at Apple too. I order a Dual 2 ghz G5 with 8 GB's of RAM, and its not here yet. In fact, they don't recognize my tracking number. If someone from Apple is reading this please fix this problem! Apple phone support is very unhelpful!

Now back to plotting more ways to get a free G5 because I can't afford one...

[juanpacolopez]

Originally posted by idyll:
Alrighty continue on. If I may ask one more, how old are you?

I'd guess about 60 or so, he reminds me of the cranky old guy down the street who has nothing better to do all day but yell at the neighborhood kids for "making too much damn noise" playing on the block in the middle of the f***ing day. By total converse his wife is the sweetest person you'd ever meet

EDIT: P.S. aaanorton, if I didn't make it clear earlier here you go again (I know it can be difficult to hear at your age)... being old and bitter doesn't give you the right to be rude <period>. If YOU didn't like that this guy was complaining about his preorder YOU had the choice to shut the f*** up about it and not read the damn thing in the first place.

[SillyMe]

I agree with aaanorton. The general pissiness is overwhelming. It's like watching a two year old put on the act.

Grow up, G5 weenies.

aaanorton, you rock!

[dfiler]

Waaaaaa waaa waaaa.

I'm with you aaanorton. This has been an entirely typical rollout of a new computer. Everything is as should be expected... both from the manufacturer and the inevitable whiners.

[juanpacolopez]

Originally posted by SillyMe:
I agree with aaanorton. The general pissiness is overwhelming. It's like watching a two year old put on the act.

Grow up, G5 weenies.

aaanorton, you rock!

Don't even get me started on you... I'm starting to think you and aaanorton are the same person, or belong to the same angry-old-***hole center or something.

The self righteous assertion that one shouldn't expect Apple to ship you a pre-order before they box them in retail stores (or at least not talk about it) because there are "more important problems" in the world is just silly.

This is a PowerMac forum... where people come to talk about procuring/using/selling (or the marketplace, of course) their powermacs. If you're looking for deep discussions on political issues I suggest you troll the NYTimes website or something, leave us materialistic jerk-offs to our own devices. If this truly IS something that happens w/ every product rollout (which I'm sure it does) then you should've learned by now to ignore it.

[BobK]

Yeah, I think Apple does hate you.
They told me that they are out to ruin your life.
Oh, you dont have one to ruin.

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by juanpacolopez:
...playing on the block in the middle of the f***ing day.

...if I didn't make it clear earlier here you go again (I know it can be difficult to hear at your age)... being old and bitter doesn't give you the right to be rude <period>. If YOU didn't like that this guy was complaining about his preorder YOU had the choice to shut the f*** up about it and not read the damn thing in the first place.

Don't even get me started on you... I'm starting to think you and aaanorton are the same person, or belong to the same angry-old-***hole center or something.

And you're saying I'm the angry, bitter one?
Right...
Oh, and I see you've invoked the other cry-baby mantra: It's a conspiracy! Because you're so important and justified, it's not possible that two people could disagree with you...

Anyhoo, since you haven't answered my question yet, I'll assume you didn't find a clause stating that pre-orders are guaranteed to ship before all others. Could it be that Apple has no interest whatsoever in the childish little races between online forum users to be the "first" to have a computer? Hmmm...
This also happens all the time: The cry-baby call goes out over the internet, and you all come running to defend your right to whine, bitch, moan and complain. Yet as soon as someone else complains about the complaining, it's like your god-given rights have been violated. Go figure.

[billybob128]

ok everyone here has bitched enough (i realise im not a mod and dont give a sh!t about that fact) lets all leave this thread alone and go our seperate ways? or is that to much to ask of some of the people in here

however as wat i hope will be the last said i agree with aaanortonsomething didnt go right so he had to whine about it i dont even expect that of my 2 year old brother i would expect him to behave better. but as he is two he doesnt so when he doesnt get his own way he cries. hey that kind of reminds me of this thread i read on the internet about a guy with his computer...

[kupan787]

Originally posted by riverfreak:
Oh god, if I had a dime for every computer science half-way-done major who thought they knew everything about comp sci! No, writing HTML is not programming.


Let us know when you get your PhD in computer science. At that point, we'll ascertain if you're putting your machine to good use.

Actually I don't knwo how to write HTML at all, but thanks

I do mainly objective-c, but have to do C++/JAVA for school (blah!).

I never said I knew everythign about comp-sci as well.

Damn, it seems like most of you hear love to make generalizations about people. I wish I could meet some of you

Originally posted by BobK:
Yeah, I think Apple does hate you.
They told me that they are out to ruin your life.
Oh, you dont have one to ruin.

The only thing I love more than this conversation is unprovoked attacks by assholes on message boards by people who get thier jollies by attacking people they don't know.

Congrats my friend. I hope you feel very proud at this moment.

[rm199]

I'm so very glad I did not order after the keynote. By the time I can actually pick up a dual 2Ghz, the 2.5s should be close enough to wait for.

RM

[chrisutley]

Call for a truce and the lob a grenade over the wall on your way out.

Originally posted by billybob128:
ok everyone here has bitched enough (i realise im not a mod and dont give a sh!t about that fact) lets all leave this thread alone and go our seperate ways? or is that to much to ask of some of the people in here

however as wat i hope will be the last said i agree with aaanortonsomething didnt go right so he had to whine about it i dont even expect that of my 2 year old brother i would expect him to behave better. but as he is two he doesnt so when he doesnt get his own way he cries. hey that kind of reminds me of this thread i read on the internet about a guy with his computer...

[idyll]

Originally posted by rm199:
I'm so very glad I did not order after the keynote. By the time I can actually pick up a dual 2Ghz, the 2.5s should be close enough to wait for.

RM

Yeah, I bet Steve Jobs is going to announce the 2.5 duals three months before you can actually buy them.

[redJag]

Originally posted by aaanorton:
I'm always interested in how and why people try to defend defenseless positions

I am too. Seriously, he pre-ordered something and didn't get priority? That is the WHOLE POINT of pre-ordering it. When I pre-ordered WarCraft III (geeky, yes) I got it two days before it was in stores. Why in God's name would ANYONE pay money BEFORE they had the product, only to receive it AFTER it was available to those that hadn't put up the money earlier? You, norton, are being the whiny bitch. I am ashamed of you, and all the people agreeing with you. What a **** forum this is.

[KidRed]

Where are those train wreck photos when you need one? Or the mods for that matter?

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by redJag:
I am too.

Huh?

Seriously, he pre-ordered something and didn't get priority?

Why would he? I know that pesky little details like reality are not nearly as much fun as what he really, really wanted (maybe that's why those details have been flatly ignored by you guys throughout this thread), but there is still no correlation between pre-ordering and early delivery.

That is the WHOLE POINT of pre-ordering it.

No, actually, it's not. Pre-ordering is a way to help ensure you'll receive a product in high demand, before the supply is depleted (like by all the people in the stores, for instance, but since he did walk in a store and buy one anyway, I have to wonder what kind of super-cry-baby pills you people are taking).

When I pre-ordered WarCraft III (geeky, yes) I got it two days before it was in stores.

Well there's a big whoop-ti-do. Your point being?

Why in God's name would ANYONE pay money BEFORE they had the product, only to receive it AFTER it was available to those that hadn't put up the money earlier?

Now, I'm going to have to escort you back to reality again for a moment to comment on this. I've covered it before, but I'll try again. Nobody paid any money to anyone, in this scenario, until he went into the store and paid the cashier. This is how credit cards work. Ask your mom or dad, they'll explain it for you.

You, norton, are being the whiny bitch.

Right, and you're taking the high-road of... name calling? Interesting.

I am ashamed of you, and all the people agreeing with you.

Whoa, that's gonna sting for a while.

What a **** forum this is.

Where **** = neat?
Well, finally something we agree on, this is a neat forum!

[nvaughan3]

"No, actually, it's not. Pre-ordering is a way to help ensure you'll receive a product in high demand, before the supply is depleted"


Do you realize how utterly stupid you sound in the context of what the situation is?

[aaanorton]

Originally posted by KidRed:
Or the mods for that matter?

Oh, c'mon Kid, jump in. it's really getting fun. And I've been replying with only one hand so far...