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What are faster, 160GB or 250GB drives in G5s?
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Sep 24, 2003, 12:49 AM
 
Looking at CTOing a G5 DP for the Radeon 9800, so may as well do the HD upgrade also, but I will add a duplicate drive also to do a RAID. Dont NEED 500GB, 360 would do, but just wondering if anyone is aware of which is the best setup in terms of speed.
     
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Sep 24, 2003, 01:01 AM
 
So far, evidence is that the 160MB drive is 4-6 weeks faster than the 250MB.

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Sep 24, 2003, 02:06 AM
 
I was looking for a solution for a fast drive setup with my g5 too. I ended up getting a 10k SATA 36gb drive to boot off and the 250 for storage. Then i realized how much of a hassle it would be to move my users folder off the boot drive to this bigger one.
I just requested an RMA for the tiny 10k drive and am looking into a raid 0 with yet another 250gb SATA. I don't need 500gb either. Will a raid 0 work with a drive that dosen't match? like a 160 SATA drive? I don't know what to do. I really don't know what kind of performance upgrade to expect from either of these combos.
     
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Sep 24, 2003, 04:21 AM
 
Originally posted by maximage:
Looking at CTOing a G5 DP for the Radeon 9800, so may as well do the HD upgrade also, but I will add a duplicate drive also to do a RAID. Dont NEED 500GB, 360 would do, but just wondering if anyone is aware of which is the best setup in terms of speed.
http://www.barefeats.com/hard31b.html

http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/...ex/1,,,00.html

They did not list the 250 so, probably, it is a maxtor...

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Sep 24, 2003, 05:59 AM
 
Originally posted by tyson.r:
I was looking for a solution for a fast drive setup with my g5 too. I ended up getting a 10k SATA 36gb drive to boot off and the 250 for storage. Then i realized how much of a hassle it would be to move my users folder off the boot drive to this bigger one.
I just requested an RMA for the tiny 10k drive and am looking into a raid 0 with yet another 250gb SATA. I don't need 500gb either. Will a raid 0 work with a drive that dosen't match? like a 160 SATA drive? I don't know what to do. I really don't know what kind of performance upgrade to expect from either of these combos.
If you mate a 250GB drive and a 160GB in a RAID 0, you will end up with only 2x160GB. The remaining space on the 250GB unit will be wasted.

Ideally, all drives in a RAID will be the same size (so no space is wasted) and will be of the same make/model so drives access times are as similar as possible.
     
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Sep 24, 2003, 11:20 AM
 
A quick look on Google reveals no 15k SATA drives, dunno why - the 15k rpm drives are all fitted with SCSI 320 Mbps interfaces (that's Ultra-Wide SuperMagoo).
Raw speed-hungry, you can stripe a pair of Western Digital Raptor drives. These are SATA hard drives spinning at 10000 rpm.
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Sep 24, 2003, 02:39 PM
 
One of the lessons I learned was that you should NEVER boot off of an array. They are the least stable method and should be used for storage.

That is why I am befuddled with the 2 drive limitation of the G5. I am going to try and mod my machine to get a thrid drive in there somehow when I get it.....if i can!
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Sep 24, 2003, 09:18 PM
 
Originally posted by cdhostage:
A quick look on Google reveals no 15k SATA drives, dunno why - the 15k rpm drives are all fitted with SCSI 320 Mbps interfaces (that's Ultra-Wide SuperMagoo).
Ahem, get it right. That's 320 MBps (MegaBYTES), not Mbps. Dual channel Ultra320 can pull 640MB/sec.

SATA can only do 150MB/sec, and that's only in short bursts.
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Sep 25, 2003, 02:29 AM
 
Thanks to all who have replied, and the input has certainly given me food for thought, such as the 10k for a boot drive. Still would like to know which is the fastest out of the 2 drives Apple provide on their options so atleast my second drive is as fast as possible.
     
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Sep 30, 2003, 11:07 PM
 
Anyone aware of any more tests or reviews now that more units are starting to come through?
     
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Sep 30, 2003, 11:28 PM
 
So far, evidence is that the 160MB drive is 4-6 weeks faster than the 250MB.
Funny.
I'm booting off an ATA/133 RAID, two striped 120GB WD Special edition drives. Have been for over a year. Thing runs fine.
     
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Oct 1, 2003, 12:50 AM
 
Hey guys, I just found out more stuff, I took my 250 hard drive out (what a pain!).

Its a DiamondMax Plus 9 (6Y250M0).

The 7Y250M0 which you can buy online is a MaXLine Plus II which is a better drive.

The DiamondMax Plus 9 is a "desktop" line and the MaXLine Plus II is "Near-line Applications"

so i guess apple got a new cheaper version

by the way, they both have fluid bearings unlike the western digital, only the segate model is true serial ATA with no bridge thingy like the western digital and maxtor, but there is no 250 Gb segate that I know of.

and by the way, this hard drive gets HOT, i don't remember my old maxors ever getting this hot.
     
   
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