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Beige G3 Difficulties - Going from 10.1 to 10.2
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Join Date: May 2003
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Recently I decided to upgrade my Rev. A Beige G3 233 Minitower with the Apple configured 9gb USCSI drive.
I installed the SCSI patch in 9, formatted and installed 10.1.4, then upgraded that to 10.1.5.
Anytime I try to install 10.2 (retail CD version 6C115), the install process decides to stop at "Preparing the Disk."
I really want to use iTunes music sharing, and need 10.2.4+ for it. I have tried both a retail set of Jaguar discs (10.2) and an upgrade set of Jaguar discs (10.2). Is there anything I am doing wrong?
Also, after this process happens (or doesn't happen I should say), I can't reboot into 10.1.5, it throws me into open firmware and refuses to recognize the previous X install. Can anyone *please* help me get 10.2 on here? I appreiate any help in advance.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Have you got anywhere with this yet?
I've got Jaguar running on my Rev A Beige G3 without any problems, so it should be possible.
I've got 10.2.8 on an IDE disk and 10.2.6 on a SCSI disk (using the built in SCSI controller) and can boot from either. I do remember having loads of trouble trying to install straight on to a SCSI disk with one of the early versions of OS X mind.
The OS X on the SCSI disk was copied from the IDE disk using Carbon Copy Cloner, so I never actually installed it directly. It might be worth giving that a go.
I also find it quite useful to have an OS 9 partition hanging around too. It comes in really handy if the Mac won't boot into OS X. You can boot into OS 9 (hold 'alt' down while booting) and reset the startup disk to the OS X one.
Good Luck.
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Jaguar needs to be installed on a partition that is completely within the first 8 G of the boot disk, on a Beige G3. Make sure you've formatted the disk appropriately. I seem to recall some folks mentioning that 10.1 was a little less finicky, in that the boot partition could be exactly 8 Gb.
FWIW, I've been running 10.2.8 on my Beige G3 (333MHz, 448 MB, PCI Radeon 7000, USB/Firewire) on a 40 G ATA drive. I took out the Apple 9Gb SCSI drive a long time ago when it started to fail, and I discovered that it would cost the earth to replace it with another SCSI drive.
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Clinically Insane
Join Date: Dec 1999
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I had so many problems with my beige G3 and OS X this is what I had to do:
Take your HD out. Find a Mac that's officially supported (and I mean B&W G3 or newer), stick your HD in it, install Jaguar, take the HD back home, install it on your G3, and presto!
Panther won't install on it, btw. You'll have to wait for a new version of XPostFacto.
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Japan
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I have an early G3 233 Beige upgraded to a 500MHz Sonnet G3 with 2 HD connected to an ATA 66 Acard controller. Installing OS X 10.2 absolutely demands removing any RAM chips over 128MB in size but runs fine with them after installation. Borderline memory is also more critical in the later versions of OS X, as is the existance of PCI cards. If you have problems even without the extra cards, make sure the partition you are installing to is a little less than 8GB, like 7.6 or so. That is enough space, really as the system takes only a little more than 2, or 3 at the most, GB.
Good luck until you can afford a G5 or a used G4. 
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