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MacsGalor · Dec 2, 2003, 09:40 PM

Just like the title, When is a G5 compatable Virtual PC expected?

Lateralus · Dec 2, 2003, 10:01 PM

Now that Microsoft has taken over Virtual PC, I would say that the G5 ready version of VPC will come out when the G6 hits, at which time Microsoft will announce that it is not compatable with the G6.

driven · Dec 3, 2003, 12:07 AM

Virtual PC isn't compatible with the G5?

This is the first that I've heard of this. Is it true?

Landos Mustache · Dec 3, 2003, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by driven:
Virtual PC isn't compatible with the G5?

This is the first that I've heard of this. Is it true?

Yes it is true and didn't they announce January 2004?

driven · Dec 3, 2003, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Yes it is true and didn't they announce January 2004?

Announce what? That it didn't work?

I wasn't following it or they didn't scream loud enough. Not sure.
Interesting.

Landos Mustache · Dec 3, 2003, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by driven:
Announce what? That it didn't work?

I wasn't following it or they didn't scream loud enough. Not sure.
Interesting.

Yes they travelled into the future and announced it didn't work.

bimmerphile · Dec 3, 2003, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by driven:
Virtual PC isn't compatible with the G5?

This is the first that I've heard of this. Is it true?

Yes. The G4 and G3 Procs had the ability to emulate "little-endian-ness" or the protocol by which information is fed to intel/AMD processors by the OS. The G5 lacks the little endian emulating abilities.

nath · Dec 3, 2003, 02:58 AM

hello

i interrogated an M$ flunky at the london mac expo and he told me that VPC for the G5 would launch 'v. early 2004'. he said this hadn't been made official but as far as he knew it was a definitive shipping date.

Originally posted by MacsGalor:
Just like the title, When is a G5 compatable Virtual PC expected?

Eug · Dec 3, 2003, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by PowerMacMan:
Now that Microsoft has taken over Virtual PC, I would say that the G5 ready version of VPC will come out when the G6 hits, at which time Microsoft will announce that it is not compatable with the G6.

Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if it's out mid-2004... just in time for my new G5 PowerBook.

UpgradeManiac · Dec 3, 2003, 01:08 PM

Check out yesterday's MacOSRumorsMacOSRumors.

Eug · Dec 3, 2003, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by UpgradeManiac:
Check out yesterday's MacOSRumorsMacOSRumors.

You'd get better predictions here (or anywhere else) than at MOSR. MOSR is useless.

jcadam · Dec 3, 2003, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by bimmerphile:
Yes. The G4 and G3 Procs had the ability to emulate "little-endian-ness" or the protocol by which information is fed to intel/AMD processors by the OS. The G5 lacks the little endian emulating abilities.

Little endian sucks anyway.

But geez, converting data from little endian (that x86 uses) to big endian (that most other stuff uses) in software is not extremely difficult. It shouldn't take this long....

sc_markt · Dec 3, 2003, 03:39 PM

The reason I say this is because the other day, I got a call from a software company about some electrical engineering software I was inquiring about on their web site. When I asked the guy if there was a Mac version, he said yes but you have to run it under VPC. In shore, if Microsoft is able to make VPC fly on the mac, I bet many software vendors will stop making native mac versions. I don't think this is a good thing.

One sign of hope: The guy I spoke with said they have a linux version in the works. I told him that I think its possible to compile it for the mac (and tweak a few things) and he said that they are in fact, considering this.

- Mark

driven · Dec 3, 2003, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by sc_markt:
The reason I say this is because the other day, I got a call from a software company about some electrical engineering software I was inquiring about on their web site. When I asked the guy if there was a Mac version, he said yes but you have to run it under VPC. In shore, if Microsoft is able to make VPC fly on the mac, I bet many software vendors will stop making native mac versions. I don't think this is a good thing.

One sign of hope: The guy I spoke with said they have a linux version in the works. I told him that I think its possible to compile it for the mac (and tweak a few things) and he said that they are in fact, considering this.

- Mark

Wasn't this one of the issues with OS/2?

(OS/2 had built in support for Windows 3.1 apps ... in many ways it ran Windows better than Windows did ... it offered memory protection for apps under OS/2 which didn't exist in Windows.)

However: When Windows 95 came out IBM didn't add support for those apps under OS/2. Yet ... no vendors created any more native OS/2 apps then they did before.

Who knows?

Truepop · Dec 3, 2003, 08:27 PM

I wouldn't put it pass Microsoft to try and get vpc to run transparently on mac os x and get to working were developers aren't making mac apps but vpc apps and then hit everyone with longhorn...

Cadaver · Dec 3, 2003, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by driven:
Virtual PC isn't compatible with the G5?

This is the first that I've heard of this. Is it true?

It was announced quite some time ago.

VirtualPC 2004 that people have been mentioning is the PC (Windows) version of VirtualPC - run two or more Windows version simultaneously on the same box. Same technology is being integrated into Windows Virtual Server - run two or more server OS's (say, Win 2000 Server and NT 4), each performing a different function, on the same physical server.

VirtualPC 2004 is not a Macintosh product

A G5-compatible VirtualPC for Macintosh has not yet been officially announced, though Microsoft has stated they are continuing to develop VPC for the Mac.

And, I agree with the post below (err, above)... MOSR is completely useless. Some clueless teenager (no joke) making up crap and leeching off other sources.