[Eug]

Another leak?



2.3 GHz?

[-Q-]

It must be the exchange rate.

[Turias]

If it was the PowerMac, maybe. But since it's the XServe, I'd just say that it was a typo/mistake.

[King Chung Huang]

Originally posted by -Q-:
It must be the exchange rate.

[Eug]

Originally posted by Turias:
If it was the PowerMac, maybe. But since it's the XServe, I'd just say that it was a typo/mistake.

Perhaps, but I'll just note that it's an image on their website, not text.

[benb]

From release date to first speed-bump: 2 days!

[Immortal K-Mart Employee]

Well they fixed it and it is back to 2. It was a typo.

[Eug]

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
Well they fixed it and it is back to 2. It was a typo.

Of course they fixed it. The 2.3 isn't officially out (if it exists) it's not as if it's easy to mistype a "0" as a "3".

While I'm not counting on it, I would not be surprised to see a 2.3 bump in a couple of months.

[Immortal K-Mart Employee]

Originally posted by Eug:
Of course they fixed it. The 2.3 isn't officially out (if it exists) it's not as if it's easy to mistype a "0" as a "3".

While I'm not counting on it, I would not be surprised to see a 2.3 bump in a couple of months.

Why in the world would Apple Canada make the graphics NOW for something 2 months away?

Last time I was at Apple Canada I talked to the guy in CHARGE there and he said not a single person in all of Apple Canada has any clue what is coming out in the future. The office watches the keynote to learn about new products.

[Eug]

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
Why in the world would Apple Canada make the graphics NOW for something 2 months away?

Last time I was at Apple Canada I talked to the guy in CHARGE there and he said not a single person in all of Apple Canada has any clue what is coming out in the future. The office watches the keynote to learn about new products.

I could be wrong, but AFAIK, the Apple.ca website is built in the US.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Makes you wonder why they would even use separate graphics for the US and Canada site anyway.

[WizOSX]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO

Makes you wonder why they would even use separate graphics for the US and Canada site anyway.

Again, it must be the exchange rate.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally posted by WizOSX:
Again, it must be the exchange rate.

Ya. if it had any sort of pricing on it, but it didn't.

[Eug]

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
Ya. if it had any sort of pricing on it, but it didn't.

It was a joke. ie. 2.3 vs. 2.0.

Mind you it's a joke that has been repeated several times in various threads...

[redJag]

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
Ya. if it had any sort of pricing on it, but it didn't.

It was a joke, you putz As far why they use different images, they are different servers! Having different servers that use the same files would be silly.
If this were an accidental leak, I would say that both websites have this in their testing servers, but only the Canadian one accidentally posted it to the live server.

[ChadC]

Originally posted by WizOSX:
Again, it must be the exchange rate.

lol... funny ****...

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Eug:
It was a joke. ie. 2.3 vs. 2.0.

Mind you it's a joke that has been repeated several times in various threads...

Ya I know. I just thought that after the 10th time he must be serious.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by redJag:

If this were an accidental leak, I would say that both websites have this in their testing servers, but only the Canadian one accidentally posted it to the live server.

So the DAY AFTER Apple announces the 2.0 version they already have the 2.3 one lined up. Wow!!!!

[iNeusch]

Originally posted by -Q-:
It must be the exchange rate.

LOL

Xserve G5 needs to be much better than the other servers available
But the keynote is over...

Just like macminute during the Keynote saying 199 for the mini iPod, must be a guess

[WizOSX]

Quoted by Eug

It was a joke. ie. 2.3 vs. 2.0.

Mind you it's a joke that has been repeated several times in various threads...

Any bad joke is worth repeating!

Seriously, Apple Canada always has a slightly different website than Apple U.S. For example, we cannot buy refurbished machines from Apple Canada. That, together with the prices in Canadian dollars, means that Apple Canada, although using some of the pieces from the U.S. site, will change some pieces for information, some to adjust the visual layout. It seems that, what happened in this case, is that the miniPods are not available in Canada yet which meant that the main store page is quite different in Canada right now. In part, the piece for the server has a different shape than on the U.S. site. It appears that somewhat pasted in an incorrect, partially modified piece.

[andreas_g4]

Originally posted by Eug:
I could be wrong, but AFAIK, the Apple.ca website is built in the US.

As far as I know, all Apple sites are managed and built in the US.

[all2ofme]

On *most* pages on Apple's site they list the 2GHz machine without the decimal point (after all - why have it?). It strikes me as a bit odd that you'd type 2.3 instead of 2. That's two keystrokes which are hardly easily made without intent.

Of course I'm just hoping for faster G5s sooner rather than later. I'll read something into anything at the moment

[ObiWan Flanders]

I'm not sure if this is even worth posting but oh well. When I went to the Apple site a few moments ago, small text descriptions of the pictures are given before they load. I'm on extremely slow dial up at the moment so it took several moments for the graphics to load. Anyway, where the xserve picture goes it said single or dual 2.3GHz, but when it loaded the picture stated the 2 ghz thats available today. This was on the american apple site. fwiw

[all2ofme]

That's the ALT text. And you're right -

"Xserve G5. 1U, 64-bit, G5 Processor Single or Dual 2.3GHz"

I reckon that's either a genuine typo in two places (graphic and HTML) or a typo in the graphic replicated by the person doing the HTML. Either way, I'm taking it as a good sign

[SouthPaW1227]

Yea, Apple.com has had this error for awhile now and no one seems to be fixing it... *can't wait for tomorrow*

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by SouthPaW1227:
Yea, Apple.com has had this error for awhile now and no one seems to be fixing it... *can't wait for tomorrow*

Yeah, it's weird that nobody has fixed it yet.

Actually, if the new top-of-the-line Power Mac comes in anything less than 2.4-2.5 GHz, I'll be disappointed. A 2.3 GHz dual Xserve would be good for next month though.

[all2ofme]

I agree - but that XServe'd be a quick update to something which has only been out a few weeks as it is.

Here's hoping that the new G5s will make the current line drop in price enough to make it easier for me to justify one...

[Jerome]

Maybe they were supposed to release the Xserve G5 at 2.3 GHz and they got everything ready for it and something prevented the release of the 2.3 chip. They left some traces...

And with the exchange rate of canadian money, we would be far higher then 2.3 GHz.

[Eug Wanker]

Hmmm... It looks like the Apple.com/ca people are asleep at the wheel with other things too.

The ALT text for the Xserve when the pic is in another spot is:

"Final Cut Express 2. The sequel to the powerful, flexble DV editor."

[masugu]

These threads made my day. I almost Sh*t myself laughing at the exchange rate comment!

So we think EO January for new PowerMac, eh? Get it..."eh?"

Tee hee hee

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Eug:
Another leak?



2.3 GHz?

USA Today says VT's new supercomputer does indeed use 2.3 GHz Xserves:

"Yesterday I stood inside what is probably the world's third-most-powerful supercomputer — the Terascale Computing Facility at Virginia Tech. (I say "probably" because the testing won't be done till next week — the Department of Defense is using it right now and can't be interrupted.) It's composed of 1100 Macintosh G5 computers running in parallel.

These aren't your run-of-the-mill Macs; each sports a 2.3 GHz IBM PowerPC 970 processor, which isn't available to the Little People."

I can't verify this, since not even a cut down version of VT's new setup is listed on the Top 500 unofficial interim list of supercomputers yet. However, as you can see for yourself, the USA Today article is very specific about this.

[chris v]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
USA Today says VT's new supercomputer does indeed use 2.3 GHz Xserves:

"Yesterday I stood inside what is probably the world's third-most-powerful supercomputer — the Terascale Computing Facility at Virginia Tech. (I say "probably" because the testing won't be done till next week — the Department of Defense is using it right now and can't be interrupted.) It's composed of 1100 Macintosh G5 computers running in parallel.

These aren't your run-of-the-mill Macs; each sports a 2.3 GHz IBM PowerPC 970 processor, which isn't available to the Little People."

I can't verify this, since not even a cut down version of VT's new setup is listed on the Top 500 unofficial interim list of supercomputers yet. However, as you can see for yourself, the USA Today article is very specific about this.

They could be in error, either way he does say "each sports A 2.3 Gz..." when earlier, it seems like VT stated they were moving to dual 2.0 Xserves. Slim evidence.

[Groovy]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
USA Today says VT's new supercomputer does indeed use 2.3 GHz Xserves:

LOL yes like only what 8 months after the thread started ?

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by chris v:
They could be in error, either way he does say "each sports A 2.3 Gz..." when earlier, it seems like VT stated they were moving to dual 2.0 Xserves. Slim evidence.

He comments a bit about the 2.3 GHz number in his blog.

I find it very interesting he chose to write 2.3 GHz specifically. It's possible it could be mistake, but if a mistake, why choose that number? Why not 2.5 or something? The reason I mention this is because 2.3 GHz is the speed I was expecting for the next Xserve speedbump. And again, there's that ad...



I wonder if Apple had made these ads in anticipation of 2.3 GHz parts... and IBM couldn't come through.

Originally posted by Groovy:
LOL yes like only what 8 months after the thread started ?

Heh yeah, but the caveat is that the G5 2.0 GHz Xserves didn't really start shipping in volume until May, and it was only relatively recently that Apple was able to catch up on the backlogged orders.

[Peder Rice]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
I wonder if Apple had made these ads in anticipation of 2.3 GHz parts... and IBM couldn't come through.

It's an interesting point, and I find no fault in it, especially after Apple publicly blamed IBM for the "slow" PowerMac G5. Further, the heat production at 2.0GHz was very similar to that in the 2.3GHz ballpark, before cranking up significantly in the 2.5GHz and up range.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Peder Rice:
Further, the heat production at 2.0GHz was very similar to that in the 2.3GHz ballpark, before cranking up significantly in the 2.5GHz and up range.

Why do you say that? Are you suggesting the voltage boost occurs between 2.3 and 2.5 GHz? Remember that the initial Xserves had CPUs already at 1.3 V.

[Leonard]

Originally posted by chris v:
They could be in error, either way he does say "each sports A 2.3 Gz..." when earlier, it seems like VT stated they were moving to dual 2.0 Xserves. Slim evidence.

According to Viriginia Tech's own page about the Supercomputer they say they are using Dual G5 Xserves and then point to the Apple Specs, so I'd assume they are indeed using Dual G5 Xserves, whether they are 2.0 or 2.3. Besides, I can't see Virginia Tech using anything but Duals. My guess is the 2.3 is a typo.

[P]

It's quite easy to mistype 2 as 2.3... if you're using the numerical keypad on a US keyboard.

[Eug Wanker]

[Eug Wanker]

Confirmed! 2.3 GHz G5 Xserves:

[MrForgetable]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Confirmed! 2.3 GHz G5 Xserves:

Nice.

[Eug Wanker]

So, 2.3 GHz Xserves at Macworld Jan. 2005?

It'd be nice to see no Power Macs then under 2.0 GHz too.

[Mafia]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
USA Today says VT's new supercomputer does indeed use 2.3 GHz Xserves:

"Yesterday I stood inside what is probably the world's third-most-powerful supercomputer — the Terascale Computing Facility at Virginia Tech. (I say "probably" because the testing won't be done till next week — the Department of Defense is using it right now and can't be interrupted.) It's composed of 1100 Macintosh G5 computers running in parallel.

These aren't your run-of-the-mill Macs; each sports a 2.3 GHz IBM PowerPC 970 processor, which isn't available to the Little People."

I can't verify this, since not even a cut down version of VT's new setup is listed on the Top 500 unofficial interim list of supercomputers yet. However, as you can see for yourself, the USA Today article is very specific about this.

this seems to be the most probable answer. apple probably intended to release 2.3 ghz but then at the last minute pulled it from the lineup. but vtech still got the 2.3's


mafia

[Simon]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
It'd be nice to see no Power Macs then under 2.0 GHz too.

Yeah, I guess we are more or less expecting that.

But, can Apple really go above 2.5GHz yet? Assuming they can't, what's it going to be? 2.0, 2.3 and 2.5 or is that too narrow? Or maybe a cheaper entry-level single 2.0 and then dual 2.0 and dual 2.5? I don't like the idea of a cheap single CPU PowerMac, but until they make a headless iMac...

Has anything above 2.5 really sampled in volume yet?

[Mafia]

Yeah, I guess we are more or less expecting that.

But, can Apple really go above 2.5GHz yet? Assuming they can't, what's it going to be? 2.0, 2.3 and 2.5 or is that too narrow? Or maybe a cheaper entry-level single 2.0 and then dual 2.0 and dual 2.5? I don't like the idea of a cheap single CPU PowerMac, but until they make a headless iMac...

Has anything above 2.5 really sampled in volume yet?

i don't think we'll see a single processor powermac. and i really do believe apple won't get rid of the 1.8 until they break the 2.5 ghz line.

mafia

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Mafia:
i don't think we'll see a single processor powermac. and i really do believe apple won't get rid of the 1.8 until they break the 2.5 ghz line.

So Macworld Jan 2005 it is then.

[BrunoBruin]

Originally posted by Mafia:
i don't think we'll see a single processor powermac. and i really do believe apple won't get rid of the 1.8 until they break the 2.5 ghz line.

If Apple CAN'T get beyond 2.5 (and I'm not saying they can't), they may have no choice but to move the rest of the line up - say duals at 2.0, 2.3 and 2.5 - with a new mix of standard features and graphics cards, and perhaps add some other features to the top end to keep it attractive. Letting the G5 line stagnate for a full year led to sales drops every quarter, and I would hope they learned a lesson from that. A refresh of the line, even if there's not a faster top end, would spur sales, especially if prices come down.

[Eug Wanker]

VT is now solidly in fifth place, with a score of 11770 using 2160 CPUs.

[Mafia]

Originally posted by BrunoBruin:
If Apple CAN'T get beyond 2.5 (and I'm not saying they can't), they may have no choice but to move the rest of the line up - say duals at 2.0, 2.3 and 2.5 - with a new mix of standard features and graphics cards, and perhaps add some other features to the top end to keep it attractive. Letting the G5 line stagnate for a full year led to sales drops every quarter, and I would hope they learned a lesson from that. A refresh of the line, even if there's not a faster top end, would spur sales, especially if prices come down.

good point, i guess well see then.

[Peter]

Wait. You didnt know this already? :/
Some cluster upgraded to 2.3Ghz, but i thought i read it was a special xserve build - and wouldnt be released to the masses