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I did it, I bought a brand new 1.25 G4
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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And i'm happy a did! (so please dont flame!) Finally a new mac, sweetness.. and here are xbench results out of the box, with only 256 RAM! Thanks for everyone's advice
Results
144.98
System Info
Xbench Version
1.1.3
System Version
10.3.2 (7D204)
Physical RAM
256 MB
Model
PowerMac3,6
Processor
PowerPC G4 @ 1.25 GHz
Version
7455 (Apollo) v3.3
L1 Cache
32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache
256K @ 1.25 GHz
L3 Cache
1024K @ 4.15 GHz
Bus Frequency
167 MHz
Video Card
ATY,RV250 (ATI Radeon 9000)
Drive Type
ST380011A
CPU Test
153.06
GCD Loop
148.10
5.78 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic
154.02
556.99 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic
154.11
4.48 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT
156.35
2.43 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library
152.96
6.12 Mops/sec
Thread Test
111.43
Computation
80.64
1.09 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention
180.22
2.26 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test
148.93
System
181.58
Allocate
826.37—>
539.04 Kalloc/sec
Fill
229.85
1829.63 MB/sec
Copy
91.23
456.16 MB/sec
Stream
126.23
Copy
121.51
888.22 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale
121.75
898.52 MB/sec [altivec]
Add
123.24
788.72 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad
140.25
856.95 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test
177.22
Line
142.02
3.62 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle
167.34
11.77 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle
172.20
3.97 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier
166.90
1.81 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text
294.37
4.80 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test
132.30
Spinning Squares
132.30
92.58 frames/sec
User Interface Test
240.67
Elements
240.67
77.41 refresh/sec
Disk Test
114.89
Sequential
140.27
Uncached Write
150.70
62.82 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write
125.84
51.53 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read
157.14
24.88 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read
132.11
53.38 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random
97.29
Uncached Write
82.81
1.24 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write
102.15
23.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read
95.75
0.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read
113.55
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Nice buy. It's hurting for ram though. Feed it and she'll run nicely.
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Don't feed it peanut butter and jelly sandwiches...trust me...
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Originally posted by ryju:
Don't feed it peanut butter and jelly sandwiches...trust me...
Means Windows?
so it is a SP 1.25?
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Originally posted by Kenneth:
Means Windows?
so it is a SP 1.25?
yep!
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Congratulations!
You may not have a G5, but you've got a machine that is the last in it's generation and that has pretty much every single bug and 'kink' worked out. Quite nice.
The G4 still has a lot of life in it, and they run Panther fantastically, as I'm sure you've noticed  . I intend to keep my G4 for quite a while longer.
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I like chicken
I like liver
Meow Mix, Meow Mix
Please de-liv-er
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Join Date: May 2000
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That is one really fast L3 cache.
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Join Date: Aug 2000
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My mom and I bought have a PowerMac G4 MDD
- Dual 1.25GHZ
- 768MB RAM (Kingston Valueram)
- 160GB SeaGate
- 4xSuperDrive
- ComboDrive (Mine is Toshiba, not sure her brand doesn't say)
- ATI Radeon 9000 64MB
Fast. But now I feel they are slow (app launching etc) is something wrong with me? Her Mac has to last until late 2007. and Mine 2006. I also have a Maxtor 120GB from my Beige G3 (slave drive that brought it to it's knees and forced me to get a new Mac). It's used as my OS Apps and Data Drive. 160GB is my scratch drive.
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Join Date: Jun 1999
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Originally posted by Mac Write:
Her Mac has to last until late 2007. and Mine 2006.
Well I will say with almost 100% certanty that the machien will last. I still have a beige 233 G3 running, and its been 6-7 years.
But I am guessing you are asking if it will remain useable in terms of speed. Well, if it "feels" fast now, if you keep the same kinds of apps, it will feel fast 2-3 years from now. I have an 867MHz G4 tower I got when they were released (2 and a half years ago I believe). It is still very useable for me. I do a bit of editing work (final cut express or imovie depending), internet, typing papers, coding (for classes and other projects), encoding video, etc. You guys got duals, and I am guessing your Mom wont be doing as much as I am, so I bet her mahcine can easiler last her until 2007, if not longer.
I do plan on upgrading to a mid range G5 at the end of this summer, mainly because it will help me do encoding and compiling faster, and the machine is much quieter.
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Congrats on the new machine, I am sure you will really enjoy it! Good purchase decision, have fun!
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Originally posted by reader50:
That is one really fast L3 cache.
L3 Cache
1024K @ 4.15 GHz
LOL... must be a bug on xbench.
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How much are the single 1.25 G4s running now?
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Brand new, they're $1299 from Apple, which includes an 80 GB hard drive, Radeon 9000, 256 MB of RAM, and a Combo drive.
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"That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario!" *wheeze*
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The same thing refurbished is only $1,099.
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I like chicken
I like liver
Meow Mix, Meow Mix
Please de-liv-er
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That is the Mac OS 9 user dream machine ,isn´t ? And it run Mac OS X so far so well. I love its look, so refined !!!
Would be great have one with the 23" HD display. Legendary setup.
Congrats !

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I have the exact same machine and it runs everything that I throw at it like a champ. Great machine. Must say the case grew on me as well. It's nice to be able to have 2 optical drives.
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-How pumped would you be driving home from work, knowing someplace in your house there's a monkey you're gonna battle?
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Originally posted by cSurfr:
I have the exact same machine and it runs everything that I throw at it like a champ. Great machine. Must say the case grew on me as well. It's nice to be able to have 2 optical drives.
cs
I've had one of those since the end of last summer. It has been rock solid, not a single problem in any regard. I have 768MB of ram, don't do video editing and am not a professional photographer (though am an amateur one), the PM does everything plenty fast for my needs. The best thing is the stability and trouble free operation! It also looks a lot better than the G5, imho, and the price is oh so nice 
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Originally posted by kupan787:
Well I will say with almost 100% certanty that the machien will last. I still have a beige 233 G3 running, and its been 6-7 years.
Ditto. My bro is still using his G4 upgraded 8600 WITH OS X. I still can't get OS X to install on my G3, though.
I think it might be my HD because I'm on a "new" G3 with a newer revision mobo and everything, but it still won't install.
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you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods,
you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
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Congratulations.
Can't beat the price and the design, and the best extensibility a Mac ever had.
(But yes, do yourself the favor and get 512 MB more RAM).
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