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Krusty · Apr 13, 2004, 07:39 AM

..check it out

scottiB · Apr 13, 2004, 07:54 AM

angelmb · Apr 13, 2004, 07:57 AM

8x SuperDrive !?, WOW, I can imagine this beauty as second computer to... have 'your stuff' on back up.

tae667 · Apr 13, 2004, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Krusty:
..check it out

No changes in European store yet, let's see will they change the absurd pricing. 1 GHz model costs 899�, today's exchange rates says it should cost 789.67980464922�(both prices include 22% VAT, exchange rates taken from Calculator.app).

angelmb · Apr 13, 2004, 08:03 AM

and the system bus gains some MHz, it is 167MHz now, and comes with three USB 2.0 ports, but FW400, not a pro-sumer Mac of course. I like the eMac more and more!

Nice.

ryju · Apr 13, 2004, 08:03 AM

That's extremely cheap for such a powerful Mac. Can't wait to see the new iMacs after this.

djohnson · Apr 13, 2004, 08:21 AM

I second that... I am thinking new iMac G5's this weekend at NAB!

Oh and I am really tempted to buy the new eMac... to bad I want more screen size!!!!!!!

songoku912 · Apr 13, 2004, 08:28 AM

Pretty awesome emac update. Great bang for the buck here

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pliny · Apr 13, 2004, 08:38 AM

Looks like a pretty good deal to me. $899 .edu pricing will get you a super drive and I don't care what people say, a very good quality 17" crt monitor and 80gb drive with lots of ports. The new eMac also has twice the level 2 cache of the iMac. I'm a fan of the all-in-ones.

mamamia · Apr 13, 2004, 09:17 AM

i am very impressed. this is quite an increase across the board. we have faster memory, faster system bus, faster processor, faster graphics chip, double the L2 cache, larger hard drive, more standard memory, faster dvd-r, apple-sanctioned ability to *mirror* the display with a special connector, and cheaper to boot. a very very impressive performance. they must be close to unloading the rest of their revamped lineup at NAB coming up in a few days. you can get a very very nice set-up with the educational pricing of the superdrive version.

apple has repeatedly shown that it has the potential to be competitive with the price-performance of its machines. unfortunatley, that edge only lasts for a few months at the introduction of updated machines. as time goes by, each machine seems to stagnate for months and months, usually as a result of a delay *somewhere" along apple's product line. everything else is held up so that apple's price-performance structure isn't thrown out of wack. to me, that is idiocy. if apple is ever going to get back into the game in a major way, they can't afford to execute their product transitions as poorly as they have been. they need to roll out updates in a timely manner across the entire line.

djohnson · Apr 13, 2004, 10:25 AM

Ahh they are rolling them out. Most of the time they have to wait on other companies to get their products to Apple so that Apple can send out the new computers...

mamamia · Apr 13, 2004, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by djohnson:
Ahh they are rolling them out. Most of the time they have to wait on other companies to get their products to Apple so that Apple can send out the new computers...

a BS excuse as far as i'm concerned. apple is the one who chooses whom to partner with. if apple has chosen poor partners (cough moto cough) they must bear responsibility for that mistake. conversely, if apple chooses a good business partner, who is able to provide apple with excellent components that allows them to timely introduce competitive machines, then apple also takes credit/responsibility for that success. you can't have it both ways.

if apple is going to make a comeback, they need to execute. execute execute execute execute. execute better than the mega-pc behomths that live on volume alone. period.

djohnson · Apr 13, 2004, 11:24 AM

What about when there are 2 manufacturers(ATI and nVidia) and both are late with their products? What do you do then?

Parky · Apr 13, 2004, 12:19 PM

The Uk Apple web site has the new eMac on the front page, but the UK Apple Store is not selling them yet.

They are still showing the 'Old' 1Ghz models.

Seems a bit odd as the Main Page graphic has the new price, which is lower than that of the old model.

Can we buy them or not, is this another 'wait until July' event.

Ian

slider · Apr 13, 2004, 03:44 PM

Now that is a super deal. I see Apple upped the standard ram to 256MB, while not at the 512MB sweet spot, a totally reasonalble amount for this computer's market and price point. This is a really good buy. Does anyone know what the HD speed is?

angelmb · Apr 13, 2004, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Parky:
The Uk Apple web site has the new eMac on the front page, but the UK Apple Store is not selling them yet.

They are still showing the 'Old' 1Ghz models.

Seems a bit odd as the Main Page graphic has the new price, which is lower than that of the old model.

Can we buy them or not, is this another 'wait until July' event.

Ian

No eMac on Apple Spain front page

Luca Rescigno · Apr 13, 2004, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by slider:
Does anyone know what the HD speed is?

On the old eMacs, it was 5400 RPM on the 40 GB drive and 7200 RPM on the others. I think it's probably the same now.

Mr.Clicky · Apr 13, 2004, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by pliny:
... a very good quality 17" crt monitor ...

Then Apple must have changed the monitor as the ones in the previous models are cheap and nasty around the edges (blue or brown vertical tinting) with very poor quality control in manufacture even for a budget machine. Somehow I doubt they have

ChasingApple · Apr 13, 2004, 08:24 PM

Just noticed its a G4 1.25Ghz with 512K Level 2 backside cache, very nice!

bobthecannibal · Apr 13, 2004, 08:36 PM

Anyone else noticed the airport card and the internal bluetooth are cheaper on the new emacs than on any other mac. In Australia its 151.25 for the airport card on the new emac while it is 199 on any other mac and internal bluetooth is 76.38 on the new emac while it is 99 on any other mac.

Wonder how long it will be before apple reduces the prices on the other macs for airport and bluetooth.

iDaver · Apr 13, 2004, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by bobthecannibal:

Wonder how long it will be before apple reduces the prices on the other macs for airport and bluetooth.

I suspect we'll see several price adjustments on stuff like that as well as further upgrades and price adjustments on other hardware in coming weeks. Today's upgrade just gives Apple a little something else to talk about during their conference call Wednesday.

Nice upgrade, by the way!

Krypton · Apr 14, 2004, 05:06 PM

AppleStore UK finally shows the new eMacs.

�549! There hasn't been a Mac this cheap since the 350Mhz iMac.

mamamia · Apr 15, 2004, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by djohnson:
What about when there are 2 manufacturers(ATI and nVidia) and both are late with their products? What do you do then?

uh, i don't see how this changes my point one bit. *especially* in the graphics card department, there is very very little reason to signficantly delay a release because a graphics card isn't ready, considering there is always a healthy supply of older graphics cards that could be used in pinch. if i remeber correctly, apple has done exactly that in the powermac more than a few times - made last generation's technology standard but allowed users the option of upgrading to a new ati 9800 or so shipping in 6-8 weeks (i.e. when available). even so, this still doesn't change the fundamental point that if apple is going to take the credit when they get all their suppliers lined up, nail the engineering, and release a hot machine, they need to take the blame when one of those suppliers doesn't come through and their products stagnate. all i'm saying is that apple needs to release a steady strem of so-called hot machines for a few years without any major snafus to begin regain some market momentum.

cc_foo · Apr 16, 2004, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by bobthecannibal:
Anyone else noticed the airport card and the internal bluetooth are cheaper on the new emacs than on any other mac. In Australia its 151.25 for the airport card on the new emac while it is 199 on any other mac and internal bluetooth is 76.38 on the new emac while it is 99 on any other mac.

Wonder how long it will be before apple reduces the prices on the other macs for airport and bluetooth.

One side effect of new machines being released, is that the new prices will be adjusted to reflect the improved A$. I think the PowerMac, PowerBooks and iBook were released before the A$ hit US$0.70 (and more). Apple hasn't adjusted the price since the product releases. So the Australian prices of the PowerBook and PowerMac are a little inflated.

Hopefully we'll see cheaper machines after the speedbumps real soon now�.