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Oct 15, 2004, 04:33 AM
 
Ok... Dual rev.A G5 2GHz with 2GB BTO RAM.
Installed VPC7. When launched the system had a serious KP.
After a reboot (resetting the PRAM) again VPC7 froze the entire system. Searching internet I found that VPC7 is affected by a serious bug related to systems with more than 2GB. >!? Probably >= 2GB...
Ok, I'll wait the f*§?^|g microshit for a patch.
Rebooted again and booted from techtool pro CD to check the HD.
While inspecting Volumes the system froze again! Hey wait! I'm booting from a CD! What's going on here? The OS on the CD was stable... Mumble mumble... Idea! The system froze when the system is stressed. Can this be the culprit? Also, in some forum I read a post that says the rev.A (?) doesn't like low temp... so I went to warm up the room from 15°C to 22°C, rebooted from the CD and... all test fine. So I rebooted form the HD and relaunched VPC7... with my surprise the system is now stable again!

To conclude: where I live the temp (the system was stable, see my post: G5 and 10.3.5 a very very stable system) dropped form 20°C to 10°C - 12°C and my stressed system under some temp threshold (my room was at 15°C) froze. Raising the room temp solved the problem. Probably cold air flowing internally condenses on the sensors and the system froze... but it is only an hypothesis.

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Oct 15, 2004, 06:40 AM
 
Wow, I know that heat effects computers, this is the first time i've heard cold (not extreme) has done something.

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Oct 15, 2004, 10:55 AM
 
ya i was figuring u were using this in a tent in the arctics or something. that is very odd.
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Oct 17, 2004, 07:22 AM
 
The happened one is totally ripetibile. Same steps same KPs. Even varying the tested apps, using cinebench for example, to stress the system, if the temp is low (<15°C) the system froze. Raising the temp solves the problem.

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Oct 17, 2004, 07:31 AM
 
What are the stated specifications for operating temperature? I can't believe that 15 deg C is too cold.
     
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Oct 17, 2004, 08:57 AM
 
That's strange.

Some PC overclocker enthusiasts run their entire PC in a small refrigerator/freezer. And some others cool their CPUs with liquid nitrogen.

I know that hard disks don't like being cold (condensation can occur internally) but other than that, systems should be able to run ~10-20 degrees C.


My guess is your HD


...or maybe the RAM?
     
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Oct 17, 2004, 10:13 AM
 
Generally speaking, computers like the cold -- 15C is decidedly not too cold.

Most likely, it's a connector that's not seated quite right, and thermal expansion is causing the intermittent behavior. I'd reseat all the connectors and see if that helps.

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