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what g4 has AGP 4x for motion
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Nov 12, 2004, 04:45 PM
 
I need a powermac with an agp4x so I can run motion, I just need to know what is the first power mac with agp 4x, because I'm on a verry tight budget.
     
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Nov 12, 2004, 05:02 PM
 
Originally posted by direinsanity:
I need a powermac with an agp4x so I can run motion, I just need to know what is the first power mac with agp 4x, because I'm on a verry tight budget.
REALLY, you don't want to skimp on the hardware for motion. Your experience will be AWFUL.. Motion does everything in realtime, and the number of realtime effects you can get depends on your hardware.

You will not be productive in Motion with hardware that "just crosses the bar." I'd say a MINIMUM machine would be a dual 1.25 G4 with a Radeon 9600 or 9800.

TRUST ME. In fact I'd really say you should go for a dual 1.8 G5 with a Radeon 9600, minimum.
     
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Nov 12, 2004, 07:07 PM
 
The PowerMac G4 Digital Audio was the first one with AGP 4x. The earlier Gig Ethernet and Sawtooth models have AGP 2x.
     
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Nov 12, 2004, 08:03 PM
 
I'm running it on a Gigabit Ethernet with an OWC 1.2 ghz. chip - 1 gig of Ram and an ATI 9800 Pro - mine is 2X...
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Nov 12, 2004, 08:23 PM
 
your experience will be terrible but if your on a budget your on a budget. I would recommend a used emac if your on a really tight budget. just buy the best you can afford.
     
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Nov 13, 2004, 11:19 AM
 
Originally posted by macaddict0001:
your experience will be terrible but if your on a budget your on a budget. I would recommend a used emac if your on a really tight budget. just buy the best you can afford.
macaddict -- sorry to say but you're giving some fairly bad advice... an eMac can't even RUN motion. It will flat out refuse to install.

I have a 1 GHz PowerBook G4 with 64 MB of VRAM -- Motion won't install on it either, because the machine is below the minimum requirements.

Motion makes EXTENSIVE use of OpenGL in the graphics card. It's REALLY necessary to have a top end video card. If you have low-end hardware, you'll be able to do less with motion -- i.e. you can only have a few effects as it renders in real time.

It's not a question of "it'll just be a little slow..." rather it just won't run or the program will be less functional.

Bare Feats did some testing with Motion on various hardware, have a look:

http://www.barefeats.com/motion.html
     
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Nov 13, 2004, 09:58 PM
 
Well a budgets a budget and if there is some way to get it to install then it would run. It would run horribly but it would still run.
btw I heard of a way to get macosx to install something despite having inferior specs I would by no means recommend it but its probably possible through one form or another.
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 11:09 AM
 
Originally posted by macaddict0001:
Well a budgets a budget and if there is some way to get it to install then it would run. It would run horribly but it would still run.
btw I heard of a way to get macosx to install something despite having inferior specs I would by no means recommend it but its probably possible through one form or another.
Umm... NO. It WOULD NOT RUN.

There is a core set of OpenGL commands that the higher end graphics cards support, that the lower ones do not. We're not talking about OS X here, we're talking about Motion. Motion makes EXTENSIVE use of 3D graphics cards, and the hardware on them for rendering.

If you want to run Motion, get a machine with a high-end graphics card. Otherwise, get After Effects and render.
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 12:52 PM
 
Ideally you should get the fastest hardware you can afford. surely you have a specific budget in mind
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Nov 14, 2004, 03:03 PM
 
I run motion on a Dual 1ghz (MDD) with a raedeon 9800pro and a gig of ram. It actually runs fairly well. I'd like it's about 70% as fast as running motion on my dual 2 g5 with the 9800XT and 2gigs of ram.
     
   
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