[tomhayes]

April 2005 PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7ghz with Nvidia Ultra 6800 and 2.5 gigs of ram installed at the time of the test.
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Xbench
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Results 265.30
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.4 (8A428)
Physical RAM 2560 MB
Model PowerMac7,3
Processor PowerPC G5x2 @ 2.70 GHz
L1 Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 2.70 GHz
Bus Frequency 1 GHz
Video Card GeForce 6800 Ultra
Drive Type Maxtor 6B250S0
CPU Test 236.92
GCD Loop 149.86 5.85 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 430.87 1.56 Gflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 185.58 5.39 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 210.25 3.26 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 508.78 20.37 Mops/sec
Thread Test 265.49
Computation 189.93 2.56 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 440.91 5.54 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 387.45
System 518.11
Allocate 827.80 539.98 Kalloc/sec
Fill 783.60 6237.43 MB/sec
Copy 302.48 1512.38 MB/sec
Stream 309.41
Copy 275.01 2010.30 MB/sec [G5]
Scale 269.00 1985.23 MB/sec [G5]
Add 347.40 2223.35 MB/sec [G5]
Triad 371.00 2266.83 MB/sec [G5]
Quartz Graphics Test 235.60
Line 227.22 5.78 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 172.51 12.14 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 214.16 4.94 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 267.16 2.90 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 382.71 6.24 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 247.93
Spinning Squares 247.93 173.50 frames/sec
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CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : Tom Hayes

Processor : Power Mac G5 Dual
MHz : 2.7
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : Ultra ^800
Resolution : <fill this out> (Machine was 2560x1600)
Color Depth : <fill this out> (millions)

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Rendering (Single CPU): 384 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 665 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.73

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 358 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1044 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1585 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.43

************************************************** **

[Busemann]

xbench is pretty much useless. Interesting Cinebench results, though

[tomhayes]

Originally Posted by Busemann

xbench is pretty much useless. Interesting Cinebench results, though

Is there a good benchmark test for the Mac??

[jamil5454]

Those scores put my iBook to shame.

[Tyler McAdams]

xBench has been good to me for Hard drisk benchmarks.

[sauria]

That Cinebench Test beats my FX-55 for Single CPU rendering. (I get 365)

[Just Warming Up]

Cinebench score is great

[NY152]

fabulous results tomhayes.

I'll run the same test on my dual 2.7 as well and post them here later. It will be an interesting comparison as we have the same machines and amount of ram except I have the ATI X800 video card.

[blackwind]

Could I request that those who run the G5 beta of Cinebench 2003 try running their Multiple-CPU render a couple times in a row please?

At those speeds, it shouldn't take more than another minute, and it should reveal how much variation occurs in the score. (For example, a dual 2.5-GHz G5 ranged from 582 to 655 in the multiple-CPU test, and that was with the G5 beta.)

Thanks!

[NY152]

Here are my Xbench and Cinebench results as promised. Once again the only difference that I can tell from my machine and tomhayes is that he is running the Nvidia GeForce 6800 and I am running the ATI X800 XT video card. He also has a larger monitor by the looks of it.

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Xbench
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Results 273.04
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.4 (8A428)
Physical RAM 2560 MB
Model PowerMac7,3
Processor PowerPC G5x2 @ 2.70 GHz
L1 Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 2.70 GHz
Bus Frequency 1 GHz
Video Card ATY,R420
Drive Type Maxtor 6B250S0
CPU Test 260.96
GCD Loop 159.28 6.22 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 429.79 1.55 Gflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 185.96 5.40 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 300.98 4.67 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 539.18 21.58 Mops/sec
Thread Test 287.40
Computation 207.58 2.80 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 466.98 5.86 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 392.95
System 534.52
Allocate 860.77 561.48 Kalloc/sec
Fill 790.09 6289.11 MB/sec
Copy 313.96 1569.82 MB/sec
Stream 310.67
Copy 264.97 1936.93 MB/sec [G5]
Scale 270.85 1998.86 MB/sec [G5]
Add 359.16 2298.62 MB/sec [G5]
Triad 380.95 2327.61 MB/sec [G5]
Quartz Graphics Test 303.56
Line 280.59 7.14 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 250.85 17.65 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 274.50 6.33 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 303.72 3.30 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 503.65 8.21 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 318.79
Spinning Squares 318.79 223.09 frames/sec
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CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : NY152

Processor : PowerMac G5 Dual
MHz : 2.7
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : ATI X800 XT
Resolution : 1920 X 1200
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 385 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 669 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.74

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 359 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1063 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1841 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.13

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[tomhayes]

Here are 5 Cinebench results taken one after another. These were using the Beta G5 optimized version:

Test 1:

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : Tom Hayes

Processor : Power Macintosh
MHz : Dual 2.7Ghz
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : Nvidia 6800U
Resolution : 2560x1600
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 382 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 617 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.62

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 359 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1052 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1671 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.66

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Test 2:

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : Tom Hayes

Processor : Power Macintosh
MHz : Dual 2.7Ghz
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : Nvidia 6800U
Resolution : 2560x1600
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 382 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 660 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.73

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 355 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1049 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1637 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.62

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Test 3:

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : Tom Hayes

Processor : Power Macintosh
MHz : Dual 2.7Ghz
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : Nvidia 6800U
Resolution : 2560x1600
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 384 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 662 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.72

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 356 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1039 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1628 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.57

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Test 4:

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : Tom Hayes

Processor : Power Macintosh
MHz : Dual 2.7Ghz
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : Nvidia 6800U
Resolution : 2560x1600
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 381 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 620 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.63

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 354 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1038 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1614 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.56

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Test 5

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : Tom Hayes

Processor : Power Macintosh
MHz : Dual 2.7Ghz
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : Nvidia 6800U
Resolution : 2560x1600
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 383 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 620 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.62

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 354 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1040 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1644 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.64

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[d.fine]

Just for comparison

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : D.Fine
Processor : Dual 2.0 RevB
MHz : 2.0
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : 9600XT
Resolution : 1280x960
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 219 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 392 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.79

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 267 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 702 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1581 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.92

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[blackwind]

Originally Posted by d.fine

Just for comparison

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : D.Fine
Processor : Dual 2.0 RevB
MHz : 2.0
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : 9600XT
Resolution : 1280x960
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 219 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 392 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.79

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 267 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 702 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1581 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.92

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That's not entirely fair, as you are using the normal version of Cinebench rather than the G5 beta. You should be getting 288 in the single-CPU render and over 500 in the multiple-CPU render.

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Also, thanks to tomhayes for running Cinebench so many times!

The interesting effect is that although the dual 2.7-GHz G5 seems to scale well in the single-CPU render, it seems to be barely any better than the old dual 2.5-GHz G5 when it comes to the multiple CPU render.

If one goes to http://www.3dfluff.com/mash/cbdual.php, one sees that the old dual 2.5-GHz G5 ranged from 607 to 654 in Cinebench 2003 scores, and the new dual 2.7-GHz G5 ranges from 617 to 669.

Perhaps the 6.4-GBps memory bandwidth is starting to strain from trying to feed two "wide" G5 processors at such high clock speeds...

[d.fine]

Originally Posted by blackwind

That's not entirely fair, as you are using the normal version of Cinebench rather than the G5 beta. You should be getting 288 in the single-CPU render and over 500 in the multiple-CPU render.

I couldn't dowload it, the link gave me an error... if I get it I'll post the results

[d.fine]

Here are 3 test with the G5 optimized Cinebench 2003 :

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : D.Fine

Processor : PowerMac G5
MHz : Dual 2.0 RevB
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : OS X 10.4

Graphics Card : 9600XT 128VRAM
Resolution : <fill this out>
Color Depth : <fill this out>

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Rendering (Single CPU): 287 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 505 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.76

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 272 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 811 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1558 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.73

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CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : D.Fine

Processor : PowerMac G5
MHz : Dual 2.0 RevB
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : OS X 10.4

Graphics Card : 9600XT 128VRAM
Resolution : <fill this out>
Color Depth : <fill this out>

************************************************** **

Rendering (Single CPU): 288 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 468 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.63

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 276 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 802 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1571 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.68

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CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : D.Fine

Processor : PowerMac G5
MHz : Dual 2.0 RevB
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : 9600XT 128VRAM
Resolution : <fill this out>
Color Depth : <fill this out>

************************************************** **

Rendering (Single CPU): 287 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 505 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.76

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 276 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 821 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1587 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.75

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[bradleykavin]

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester :

Processor : dual 1.8 g5 rev b
MHz :
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : nvidia 6800 gt
Resolution : <fill this out>
Color Depth : <fill this out>

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Rendering (Single CPU): 259 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 459 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.77

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 249 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 755 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1475 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.92

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is that good for a dual 1.8?

[d.fine]

Just ran a new XBench. Previous was on 10.3.5 with a score of 207. Ran a test now on the same machine with 10.4, which got a score of 220.
The difference is purely because of software. Its not a huge improv, but goes to show that Tiger is a better OS..

[blackwind]

Originally Posted by bradleykavin

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester :

Processor : dual 1.8 g5 rev b
MHz :
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : nvidia 6800 gt
Resolution : <fill this out>
Color Depth : <fill this out>

************************************************** **

Rendering (Single CPU): 259 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 459 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.77

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 249 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 755 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1475 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.92

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is that good for a dual 1.8?

That's about in the middle for a dual 1.8-GHz G5.

Also, thanks to d.fine for running several tests on his dual 2-GHz G5.

The odd thing about the G5 beta is that despite the large improvement over the normal Cinebench version is that the multiprocessor speedup is lower (about 1.76 or 1.77 instead of about 1.84). The few G5 scores that are especially high (dual 2-GHz G5 with multiple-CPU render of 524 and dual 2.5-GHz G5 with multiple-CPU render of 654) manage to reach that, so I am somewhat clueless as to why there is so much variation.

[d.fine]

The OpenGL speedup is also lower in the G5-op Cinebench during my tests. But overall the OpenGL speedup on a Dual 2.0 is higher than that on a Dual 2.7 (> 5.75 vs 4.66) . with the exception of the first cinebench run by 'NY152' where this is 5.13 ...

Beats me why the MP speedups are lower with the G5-op cinebench. It is strange, you'd think because it is optimized for G5 the single CPU test would score higher, and the MP test would be double (or near double) the results.

[Agent69]

Originally Posted by Busemann

xbench is pretty much useless.

Could you elaborate?

[blackwind]

Originally Posted by d.fine

The OpenGL speedup is also lower in the G5-op Cinebench during my tests. But overall the OpenGL speedup on a Dual 2.0 is higher than that on a Dual 2.7 (> 5.75 vs 4.66) . with the exception of the first cinebench run by 'NY152' where this is 5.13 ...

Beats me why the MP speedups are lower with the G5-op cinebench. It is strange, you'd think because it is optimized for G5 the single CPU test would score higher, and the MP test would be double (or near double) the results.

The OpenGL speedup is lower because the CPU optimizations improved the Cinema 4D shading, but there were apparently minimal OpenGL optimizations. Also, the dual 2.7-GHz G5 has a lower speedup ratio because its CPU is faster, which increases the Cinema 4D score.

Apparently, according to the Ars Technica forums, all networking has to be disabled (I guess this means the Internet, Ethernet, Airport, etc.) for an optimal multiple-CPU render score. Of course, if the runs here were done with networking disabled, then I will have absolutely no clue as to what is going on...

[Cadaver]

My results...
Dual 2.5GHz G5, 2.5GB RAM, Radeon X800XT, 30" Cinema Display, OS X 10.4:

CINEBENCH 2003 v1 G5 Optimized
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Tester : Cadaver

Processor : Dual 2.5GHz G5
MHz : 2500
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4

Graphics Card : X800XT
Resolution : 2560x1600
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 358 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 575 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.61

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 338 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 978 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1889 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.58

************************************************** **

[d.fine]

Originally Posted by blackwind

Apparently, according to the Ars Technica forums, all networking has to be disabled (I guess this means the Internet, Ethernet, Airport, etc.) for an optimal multiple-CPU render score. Of course, if the runs here were done with networking disabled, then I will have absolutely no clue as to what is going on...

Mine wasn't disabled. If you want I'll run some test with Airport and Ethernet disabled, see if there is a difference...

[a2daj]

Originally Posted by Agent69

Could you elaborate?

My biggest beef is the OpenGL test. It doesn't stress the video cards at all and as a result, can show very misleading numbers. Some people actually think a Rage 128 is faster than a Radeon 9800 Pro because of Xbench OpenGL scores. I'm sure this and other reasons why Xbench isn't that great have been discussed a few times in this forum. Try a search.

[Grrr]

Originally Posted by Busemann

xbench is pretty much useless. Interesting Cinebench results, though

Here we go again..

Nothing wrong with Xbench, if you know how to use it properly.

[Theodour]

Just in case you were wondering what the poor people were doin' tonight, here are the results of my DA 533x2 (note the sweet, sweet Radeon 9600!--see the OpenGL Speedup)
Read it and (I'll) weep:

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester : theodour

Processor : Digital Audio
MHz : 533
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.3.9

Graphics Card : Radeon 9600
Resolution : 1280x1024
Color Depth : millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 59 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 109 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.84

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 78 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 226 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 501 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 6.43

************************************************** **


And, Xbench

Results 90.92
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.9 (7W98)
Physical RAM 1280 MB
Model PowerMac3,4
Processor PowerPC G4x2 @ 534 MHz
Version 7410 (Nitro) v1.3
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 1024K @ 267 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV350
Drive Type ATA Maxtor 4G120J6
CPU Test 64.49
GCD Loop 59.49 2.32 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 79.79 288.54 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 44.09 1.28 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 62.86 975.93 Mflop/sec
Floating Point Library 104.17 4.17 Mops/sec
Thread Test 89.78
Computation 69.41 937.09 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 127.06 1.59 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 106.95
System 115.96
Allocate 437.81 285.58 Kalloc/sec
Fill 95.98 763.97 MB/sec
Copy 75.94 379.72 MB/sec
Stream 99.23
Copy 101.43 741.48 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 101.26 747.33 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 95.25 609.59 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 99.25 606.39 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 102.95
Line 87.23 2.22 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 94.16 6.62 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 98.07 2.26 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 93.51 1.02 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 178.79 2.91 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 53.28
Spinning Squares 53.28 37.29 frames/sec
User Interface Test 160.90
Elements 160.90 51.75 refresh/sec
Disk Test 74.71
Sequential 75.05
Uncached Write 68.66 28.62 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 67.61 27.69 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 107.69 17.05 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 68.23 27.57 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 74.38
Uncached Write 69.25 1.04 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 78.17 17.63 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 75.90 0.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 74.78 15.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]