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Help!!!! Can't Boot To OS 9!!!
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Baninated
Join Date: May 2005
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Hi, everyone.
OK, lets make it quick copied panther cd system thing to hd to see if it didnt freeze. os 9 cd wont boot (made it worse with cd cleaner) panther cd just freezes cant do anything. how do i make it so that it boots to my os 9 system folder and not a panther cd (installation) folder? firmware boot commands? someone help me!!! please!!!
or my mac just doesnt do any thing!
kick52
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In "making it quick" you seem to have left out a few words, I have no idea what your actual problem is. Also, you're going to have to tell us what computer you are using. If it's the one in your sig, say so, we're not psychic.
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g4/1.5 GHz 12 inch powerbook / 1.25 RAM / 80 gig / Superdrive / 10.5.6
g3/400 MHz Pismo / 640 RAM / 40 gig / Combo Drive / 10.3.9
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Baninated
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sorry about that.
ive got 2 System folders on my HD. One is a working OS 9, the other, the installation program on the panther install disc 1. My mac boots to the unusable panther install and doesnt do anything. My OS 9 bootable disc wont work because i cleaned it with a cd cleaner. So, when i turn on my mac, it goes to the installation program on my HD (That displays the apple sign, then the broken system folder sign and does no more.) and doesnt go to my working os 9 system. I cant boot from the os 9 cd and if i boot to the panther cd, it just freezes everything if it does anything to do with the hard drive (like disk utility, startup disk, panther destination install)
so basically, i cant do anything (Apart from go to a freezing panther install cd)
but, i can go to open firmware.
so, what i need, is commands i can use to boot it into my OS 9 system or to delete my broken OS X panther install.
Today, i was running the panther install on the cd. it got to the destination stage, the cd started loading, then the GUI started dissapearing until it was only blue, and then a spinnging grey bar thing kept turning round and my mac did nothing.
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I had something similar once and it turn out one of my RAM modules was bad.
Try removing one and retrying - no promises though.
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I would also try different ram as os x is picky with ram.
Your hard drive does sound rather suspect though.
If you're really desperate you could try disconnecting it and see whether things get any further.
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Also, if you have access to another mac you can get an external case for that hard drive, and use your other mac to either delete the broken system folder or do a good install of Panther.
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g4/1.5 GHz 12 inch powerbook / 1.25 RAM / 80 gig / Superdrive / 10.5.6
g3/400 MHz Pismo / 640 RAM / 40 gig / Combo Drive / 10.3.9
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I'm confused. Are you booting from the Panther install CD by holding down the 'C' key when you boot? That's the correct procedure. Then you should be able to install Panther.
I still didn't see what kind of Mac you have. Modern Macs can't boot to OS 9. What do you have?
Chris
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Another idea - is your mac the one in your sig with a 6GB drive? If this is the case it is possible with a full install of OS9 and OSX on it you may have insufficient space left on the HD for the swap file.
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Baninated
Join Date: May 2005
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"I had something similar once and it turn out one of my RAM modules was bad.
Try removing one and retrying - no promises though." - Will C
It might be my RAM... My iMac always froze before i increased the disk cache in the memory c.p.
"I would also try different ram as os x is picky with ram.
Your hard drive does sound rather suspect though.
If you're really desperate you could try disconnecting it and see whether things get any further." - seanc. I would but how am i going to install panther to it???
I ran the disk first aid on the the panther cd and it said i had minor volume header errors ( 0, 1) so i repaired.
I got to 10% of checking my destination disk on the panther cd but then it froze.
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Baninated
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Sorry, forgot to mention it..
All my threads i have been abouht my mac on my signature and they always will be until further notice.
-----Also------
Where can i download a hardware test (or one on my panther disc) for my mac??
Will it be able to say if it is my ram?
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I don't think you can download the hardware test cd.
There is memtest but you need mac os x to be able to run it.
There may be a classic version around somewhere on the internet.
Do you have any spare hard drives? 6gb isn't really enough to install os x and os 9 together so you'll probably need a bigger one. Getting another hard drive will also enable you to see if you can get any further.
A new drive would need to be formatted to HFS (which can be done from the panther CD) and the jumpers set to master.
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Baninated
Join Date: May 2005
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i would, but i dont have any money. my mum says i have to save up for xmas, and i only get £10 per month.
UPDATE: I copied the whole disk to my HD and it ran the install app but when i get to the destination, my hd isnt there!!!!
if i run disk first aid on the cd, it says mount check found minor errors, but i cant repair
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Baninated
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oh yer...
i had a kernal panic today. it was reading packages (while in the install) then it came to the multi languaged "restart your computer". I also had one when i put my USB hub in (also in the panther install)
so i guess it is the ram??
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Originally Posted by kick52
All my threads i have been abouht my mac on my signature and they always will be until further notice.
A useless disclaimer, since practically nobody will have seen this thread. Just be a good sport when you post questions and specify what Mac you're referring to.
tooki
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