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Western Digital 10000rpm Raptors in Mac Pro's
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Oct 1, 2006, 01:09 PM
 
Has anyone tried this configuration, I'm assuming it will just work but does anyone notices a performance boost or for that matter any problems or big increase in noise coming fromyour mac pro? I placed an order for a dual 2.66Ghz mac pro with a 160GB HD with the intention of throwing in a couple 10000 RPM western digital raptors.


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Oct 1, 2006, 01:21 PM
 
I imagine it would be noisier, and it should work fine too.
     
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Oct 1, 2006, 01:50 PM
 
They are noisy, but theres not reason why they wouldnt work. I know people use them as a boot drive.
     
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Oct 1, 2006, 07:23 PM
 
They're not really that much noisier.

I had two 74GB Raptors running as a RAID 0 boot volume for a little while. Worked fine and was pretty fast - but actually not a huge amount faster than my 300GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 drive I had been using. Decided to take the RAID out as there are some Boot Camp (which is important to me) issues with a RAID boot volume.

Finally decided that the connivence of a single 300GB boot volume outweighed the modest speed boost from the 140GB Raptor RAID. Not sure what I'm going to do with the Raptors now, though. I don't edit video or live off Photoshop, so I don't really need any high-speed swap space.
     
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Oct 1, 2006, 07:33 PM
 
I have two Maxtor, Maxline 300gig drives raided together and its pretty fast. I have the stock drive as my backup and bootcamp drive. For instance the firmware patch that apple released couldn't be applied on a raid-0 drive array. over all I'm very pleased with the raid-0 implementation.

I didn't opt for the raptors so I cannot comment on the noise of them but the maxtor drives are very quiet.
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Oct 4, 2006, 06:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cadaver
Not sure what I'm going to do with the Raptors now, though. I don't edit video or live off Photoshop, so I don't really need any high-speed swap space.
Give them to me?

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Oct 4, 2006, 07:35 AM
 
I've got 2 Raptors running in my Sawtooth, and they dont really make much more noise than the 2 maxtors that are in there, just a small tad more heat though. But thats what replacement case/exhaust fans are for, yes ?
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Oct 7, 2006, 11:38 AM
 
The original 36 and 72GB raptors where alot noisier then the later ones. I had a 140GB raptor and it was not noisy.
     
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Oct 8, 2006, 08:14 PM
 
I've got a 150 GB raptor I use as my boot disk and it works like a charm... not one bit noisy as kamina pointed out! A must have in my book!
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Oct 12, 2006, 08:58 PM
 
I just ordered a 150GB in hope of it speeding up my MacPro. The CPUs rarely get pegged, but it gets sluggish everytime it reads and writes large amount of data to the HD. IE the computer is almost unusable whenever I render out lossless video from Motion.

Should I put it as a boot disk or is there a way to move swap space to it without making it the boot. Yes, I am upgrading RAM to minimize swapping, but as said in my other thread I am having trouble upgrading it.

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Oct 15, 2006, 11:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
I just ordered a 150GB in hope of it speeding up my MacPro. The CPUs rarely get pegged, but it gets sluggish everytime it reads and writes large amount of data to the HD. IE the computer is almost unusable whenever I render out lossless video from Motion.

Should I put it as a boot disk or is there a way to move swap space to it without making it the boot. Yes, I am upgrading RAM to minimize swapping, but as said in my other thread I am having trouble upgrading it.
Eric, I run a 74GB Raptor as my boot in the MacPro and did the same on my prior Dual G5.

For you, I'd consider getting 2x150GB and doing a RAID 0 on them... Can't you make your render drive a different drive than your boot drive where your software resides?

The best way to maximize the bandwidth (I do it for FCP5) is to keep the applications and OS on a "Boot" disk, and then use a RAID or other fast drives for your data.

I've got my iphoto/itunes, and all my video render stuff, as well as large .NEF files for photoshop on my RAID which is made of 2x500GB drives.. but for more speed you can use 2x150Raptors, you'll just need another drive to back up your files incase you fill up the 300GB Raid fast..
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Oct 17, 2006, 10:24 AM
 
Yep, that's an old "audio user" trick:

Have your boot drive be one drive and have your "writing to media" drive
be another, it makes a rather significant difference and you can get more
simultaneous audio tracks out of DAW applications.
     
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Oct 17, 2006, 10:25 AM
 
Yep, that's an old "audio user" trick:

Have your boot drive be one drive and have your "writing to media" drive
be another, it makes a rather significant difference and you can get more
simultaneous audio tracks out of DAW applications. It also makes for faster
video processing writes.
     
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Oct 18, 2006, 01:34 AM
 
Thanks UM and Todd. That was exactly what I did, apart from the RAID that is. I set the 150GB as my "Current projects" disk for writing and reading media, separate from the boot. I also moved the swap file there using Xupport. Wow what a difference! So far, all the lag I've experienced has gone!

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Oct 22, 2006, 12:29 AM
 
Ya you definitly want to increase speed by spreading the 'load' across two spindles. I run SCSI drives and keep my startup (OS and apps) as one drive and working data as another drive. Finished work gets moved to my server so my work drive doesnt have to be large either. Speed over space for me. Oh and last drive is a swap/temp drive so really I'm running 3 drives. I dont ever get slow downs
     
   
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